Integrate (sinx+cosx)/sqrt(1+sin2x)

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The problem involves integrating the expression (sinx + cosx)/sqrt(1+sin2x), which falls under the subject area of calculus, specifically integration techniques involving trigonometric functions.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various attempts to rationalize the expression and explore substitution methods. There is mention of using trigonometric identities and the challenges faced in expressing the integral in simpler terms. Some participants inquire about integration techniques such as integration by parts.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and insights. Some have offered hints regarding simplification of the denominator, while others express confusion about the implications of their manipulations. There is no explicit consensus yet, but productive lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants note the difficulty in finding suitable substitutions and the complications introduced by multiplying terms in both the numerator and denominator. There is also a reference to the constraints of homework rules that may limit the approaches discussed.

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Homework Statement



Integrate: (sinx + cosx)/sqrt(1+sin2x)

Homework Equations


Simple trigo formulae:
cos2x=cos^2(x)--sin^2(x)
sin^2(x)+cos^2(x)=1
sin2x=2.sinx.cosx

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to rationalize the given term,multiplying both numerator and denominator with:
1st time:cosx-sinx
2nd: sqrt(1-sin2x)
3rd: Both the above terms
Everytime,I only got slightly different terms.

So,went to substitution.
But,I'm not finding any suitable term which I can substitute.
If after rationalizing,I substitute sin2x as a variable,say,T,things might have worked out,
EXCEPT that since I multiplied the term both to numerator and denominator,the other term just makes it impossible to express the whole term in terms of a simple integral.
Any hints? (With or without substitution)
 
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Do you know about integration by parts and quotient rule integration by parts ?
 
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Tanishq Nandan said:

Homework Statement



Integrate: (sinx + cosx)/sqrt(1+sin2x)

Homework Equations


Simple trigo formulae:
cos2x=cos^2(x)--sin^2(x)
sin^2(x)+cos^2(x)=1
sin2x=2.sinx.cosx

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to rationalize the given term,multiplying both numerator and denominator with:
1st time:cosx-sinx
2nd: sqrt(1-sin2x)
3rd: Both the above terms
Everytime,I only got slightly different terms.

So,went to substitution.
But,I'm not finding any suitable term which I can substitute.
If after rationalizing,I substitute sin2x as a variable,say,T,things might have worked out,
EXCEPT that since I multiplied the term both to numerator and denominator,the other term just makes it impossible to express the whole term in terms of a simple integral.
Any hints? (With or without substitution)

##(\cos x + \sin x)^2 = ?##
 
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Nidum said:
Do you know about integration by parts and the quotient rule for integration ?
By parts?Yeah,Quotient rule FOR INTEGRATION?I don't think so
 
Buffu said:
##(\cos x + \sin x)^2 = ?##
1+sin2x,I know,but I already told ya
Tanishq Nandan said:
since I multiplied the term both to numerator and denominator,the other term just makes it impossible to express the whole term in terms of a simple integral.
Then,I have a (sinx + cosx) in the denominator as well,right?That's my problem.
I tried that way as well.
 
Tanishq Nandan said:

Homework Statement



Integrate: (sinx + cosx)/sqrt(1+sin2x)

Homework Equations


Simple trigo formulae:
cos2x=cos^2(x)--sin^2(x)
sin^2(x)+cos^2(x)=1
sin2x=2.sinx.cosx

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried to rationalize the given term,multiplying both numerator and denominator with:
1st time:cosx-sinx
2nd: sqrt(1-sin2x)
3rd: Both the above terms
If you write 1 as ##\sin^2 x + \cos^2 x##, the denominator becomes
$$\sqrt{ \sin^2 x + \cos^2 x + 2 \sin x \cos x} = \sqrt{(\sin x + \cos x)^2}.$$
Can you see how to simplify ##\sqrt{(\sin x + \cos x)^2}\:?##
 
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Ray Vickson said:
If you write 1 as ##\sin^2 x + \cos^2 x##, the denominator becomes
$$\sqrt{ \sin^2 x + \cos^2 x + 2 \sin x \cos x} = \sqrt{(\sin x + \cos x)^2}.$$
Can you see how to simplify ##\sqrt{(\sin x + \cos x)^2}\:?##
Ooo...should have thought of that..
K,got it.Thanks!
 

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