DIY homemade Crooke's radiometer?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and methods for constructing a DIY Crooke's radiometer at home. Participants share their experiences, ideas, and challenges related to building the device, including considerations for vacuum levels and materials.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the possibility of making a Crooke's radiometer at home and share their initial research findings.
  • One participant mentions a specific project involving a mason jar and a food saver jar-adapter to create a vacuum.
  • Another participant notes the importance of achieving good seals and a low vacuum, suggesting that smaller vessels may yield better results.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of high vacuum levels for the radiometer to function properly, with some suggesting that a lower vacuum might suffice.
  • One participant expresses interest in measuring the pressure inside the vacuum vessel and discusses the concept of an optimal balance between friction and molecular density.
  • There are requests for updates on the progress of the DIY projects and results from the participants.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the challenges of creating a vacuum and the need for good seals, but there is no consensus on the exact vacuum level required for effective operation of the radiometer. Multiple competing views on the necessity of high vacuum remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about vacuum levels and the effects of molecular density, but these points are not fully explored or quantified. There are references to potential leaks and the importance of the compression ratio in estimating vacuum pressure.

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Individuals interested in DIY projects, experimental physics, and those curious about the principles behind Crooke's radiometer may find this discussion valuable.

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Is there any way to make one at home?
 
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AdrianMachin said:
Is there any way to make one at home?
What have you found in your Google searching so far?
 
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berkeman said:
What have you found in your Google searching so far?
Found some cool projects, but was looking for a way to make it like those inside a light bulb.
 
Baken said:
https://www.instagram.com/p/BR3acncFNVK/ I'm building it in a mason jar and will pump the air out with a food saver jar-adapter.
Good luck with it. You will need to make some pretty good seals and getting the vacuum very low will take some ingenuity. The smaller that your vacuum vessel is, the lower vacuum you will achieve so don't use a large jar.
 
Cool. Also want to see the results. So, if you can, give us links or smth. :wink:
 
Baken said:
pump the air out with a food saver jar-adapter.
From that movie, it seems that a high vacuum is not necessary. which is interesting. A 'Proper' radiometer that works by photon momentum needs high vacuum (to avoid the effect of bouncing molecules in the cheap method).
I always find it amazing that it's possible for me to go through life making totally wrong assumptions of 'amounts' when such things are constantly on my (in particular) mind. I must try to make one as well and see just how little vacuum is needed. There will be an optimum compromise between friction and density of fast molecules, I guess. Have you managed to measure the pressure in there? An 'optimistic' estimate can be made, using the 'compression ratio' of the system - pump volume vs vessel volume which ignores leaks etc.
 
To OP, how's the result of your project? I just realized this post is 2 years old.
 

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