Do action force and reaction force lie on same line?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on whether action and reaction forces, as described by Newton's third law, lie on the same line. Participants explore implications for angular momentum, particularly in the context of a cat's ability to rotate in mid-air before landing.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if action and reaction forces must lie on the same line, suggesting that if they do not, angular momentum could be violated.
  • Another participant proposes that the conservation of angular momentum is derived from the symmetry of rotational space, implying that internal forces should have zero torque, which would necessitate action and reaction forces lying on the same axis.
  • A different viewpoint asserts that a cat is not a rigid body, allowing it to rotate without violating Newton's laws, as there are no external torques acting on it.
  • Another participant explains that conservation of angular momentum does not prevent changes in angular orientation due to internal torques, using the example of a person on a frictionless surface changing direction by moving their arms.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether action and reaction forces must lie on the same line, and the implications of this for angular momentum. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the necessity of action and reaction forces lying on the same axis, nor have they fully resolved the implications for angular momentum in the context of a cat's rotation.

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Do action force and reaction force(Newton's third law) lie on same line?If not then the angular momentum will be violated.I don't know why a cat falling can rotate itself before contact land if the conservative law of angular momentum not be violated?
 
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I know that the conservative law of angular momentum is deduced from the symmetry of rotation of space.So the torque of internal force must be zero,then the action and reaction forces must be lie in same axis.But how to prove action and reaction forces lie in same axis(it seem to me sometime the action and reaction forces not lie on same axis)?
 
fxdung said:
Do action force and reaction force(Newton's third law) lie on same line?If not then the angular momentum will be violated.I don't know why a cat falling can rotate itself before contact land if the conservative law of angular momentum not be violated?
The short answer is the cat is not a rigid body. Newtons Laws are inviolate and there are no external torques on the cat but by clever counterotation the cat can get her feet downward without offending Sir isaac.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/why-cats-always-land-on-their-feet_n_1828748
 
Conservation of angular momentum doesn't mean that angular orientation can't be changed due to internal torques. If you were standing on a frictionless surface, you could whirl your arms overhead to change the direction you face. A cat flexes at the middle and whirls it's front half and back half in order to change orientation to face paws down.
 
fxdung said:
I don't know why a cat falling can rotate itself before contact land if the conservative law of angular momentum not be violated?
 

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