Do all EM waves travel through a vacuum?

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The discussion revolves around electromagnetic (EM) waves, specifically their behavior in a vacuum, their speed, and their properties as transverse waves. The original poster expresses confusion regarding these concepts and seeks clarification on a specific homework question related to the direction of an EM wave's vector.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore whether all EM waves travel through a vacuum and if their speed is consistent across different frequencies. Questions are raised about the nature of EM waves as transverse waves and their ability to travel through various media. The original poster also seeks help with a specific homework question regarding the direction of an EM wave's vector.

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Some participants provide clarifications regarding the behavior of EM waves in different environments and the implications of their speed. There is acknowledgment of the original poster's confusion, and some guidance is offered, though explicit consensus on the homework question is not reached.

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Participants discuss the implications of EM waves traveling through different media, including air and dense matter, and the effects on their speed and energy. There are references to concepts such as the index of refraction and potential theories affecting photon behavior.

Dx
Hiya!

I have some general questions about EM waves since i am somewhat lost from reading and may have misuderstood what I read.

1) does all EM waves travel through a vacuum? if so are they the same speeds/proportional/inporportional to their frequency.

2) I now that EM waves are transverse, correct? but can they travel through pretty much anything?

3) Let's say in a vacuum, the velocity of all EM waves are they nearly 3.00 x 10^8 m/s or what?


Now for my homework question? An EM wave traveling to the east. AT one instant at a given point its E vector points straight up. what is the direction of its vector?

my answer is south unless my right hand rule i am using is actually my left hand facing in some weird direction. can you help me please or am i correct?

Thanks!
Dx :wink:
 
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Really? How come then that a mathematician is the only one who finds the cat (=is always right)?

fair enough but how come you didn't answer my question? Please don't tell me your link is the answer to my question alexander. I wanted some better assistance but your has been appreciated, sir. Thank You!
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Originally posted by Dx
1) does all EM waves travel through a vacuum?

Come on, Dx, this is an easy one. When you listen to the radio in your car, the EM waves traveled through the air (not vacuum). When someone gets an X-Ray, the EM waves travel through their body (not vacuum).

et cetera...

if so are they the same speeds/proportional/inporportional to their frequency.

Look up "index of refraction" in the chapter on EM waves. The explicit relationship should be there.

2) I now that EM waves are transverse, correct?

Correct.

but can they travel through pretty much anything?

See my answer to your first question.

3) Let's say in a vacuum, the velocity of all EM waves are they nearly 3.00 x 10^8 m/s or what?

Yes.

Now for my homework question? An EM wave traveling to the east. AT one instant at a given point its E vector points straight up. what is the direction of its vector?

my answer is south unless my right hand rule i am using is actually my left hand facing in some weird direction. can you help me please or am i correct?

Yes, you got it right.
 
1) does all EM waves travel through a vacuum? if so are they the same speeds/proportional/inporportional to their frequency.
Well, technically they travel in the spaces between atoms in air, which are empty and hence vacuums. They all have the same speed, c in that vacuum. But when they travel through air, they are delayed by hitting stuff and being reemitted, so their overall speed is reduced.

BUT by some variants of DSR, which is a new theory going around, photon energy does affect their speed. But this is only apparent in extreme circumstances.

2) I now that EM waves are transverse, correct? but can they travel through pretty much anything?
Yes, they are transverse. But when they travel through dense matter, they tend to get dissipated/lose their energy when they bump into the particles. Usually, high energy photons - eg. gamma rays get dissipated less, and penetrate further. It is possible to shield from low energy em radiation. Close your eyes, and there is your example.

3) Let's say in a vacuum, the velocity of all EM waves are they nearly 3.00 x 10^8 m/s or what?
According to current theories, yes.
 
Okay!

THANKS!

FZ+ and Tom, take a bow!

Thanks for the clarification. Its much appreciated and clearer now.

Dx :wink:
 

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