Do Electric and Magnetic Fields Affect Electromagnetic Waves?

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Electric and magnetic fields do not exert forces on electromagnetic waves because these waves lack charge, adhering to the principle of linearity in electromagnetic fields. While electric fields can influence charges and magnetic fields can affect moving charges, they do not interact with each other in the same way. There are exceptions, such as electroweak fields, which can carry charge and interact with electromagnetic fields. The discussion also highlights that while fields can influence one another under certain conditions, classical electromagnetic fields do not act on each other directly. Ultimately, the interaction between different forces, like gravity and electromagnetism, complicates the understanding of field interactions.
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why do electric and magnetic fields have no effect on an electromagnetic wave?
 
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Electric fields exert forces on charges. Magnetic fields exert forces on currents (or moving charges.).

Neither field exerts forces on electric or magnetic fields. This is the classical statement of the linearity of EM fields and to a very large degree it is accurate.
 
Is it because the electromagnetic wave has no charge?
 
faiz4000 said:
why do electric and magnetic fields have no effect on an electromagnetic wave?

A wave is also a field. A field does not act on another field just like a force does not act on another force. :)
 
Hernik said:
Is it because the electromagnetic wave has no charge?

Yes. But there is an exception; some electromagnetic (electroweak) fields can carry charge but these fields are almost never observed directly.
 
I think I am not sure I agree.

A field is just a set of numbers at each point in space and time. We think of electric and magnetic fields, but the same formalism can be used elsewhere: in a previous message I described wind as a velocity field. So there is no reason a field cannot act on another field, and there are counterexamples: a changing electric field produces a magnetic field.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
So there is no reason a field cannot act on another field, and there are counterexamples: a changing electric field produces a magnetic field.

An electric field cannot act on another electric field. The same holds for other classical force-fields anyway.
 
That's true, but the key word is "electric". It's a statement about the kinds of fields, not a statement about fields.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
That's true, but the key word is "electric". It's a statement about the kinds of fields, not a statement about fields.

This is correct in the general case.

When photons are involved and we have Maxwell's equations, the charges don't exert forces on the fields only the other charges.

The electroweak fields are different. The W is a charged force carrier. This means the electroweak fields do exert forces on charges, on EM fields, and on itself.
 
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So an electromagnetic field couldn't say, disturb light, or any other frequency on the EM Spectrum?

Any one force not having an affect on the other is incorrect, look at gravity, it has an affect on electromagnetism.

Michael
 
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