Do V1, V2, and V3 Span R3?

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The discussion revolves around the problem of determining whether the vectors v1, v2, and v3 span R3. The vectors are given as V1=(1,0,0), V2=(2,2,0), and V3=(3,3,3). Participants are exploring various approaches to demonstrate this spanning property.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Some participants attempt to express an arbitrary vector as a linear combination of v1, v2, and v3, questioning their initial setups and calculations.
  • Others suggest generating the standard basis of R3 using the given vectors to check for spanning.
  • There are inquiries about the conditions under which the vectors would span R3 and how to verify this through matrix operations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts and seeking clarification on their reasoning. Some have provided insights into using matrix equations to explore the spanning property, while others express confusion and seek simpler explanations.

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Participants are working under the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the methods they can use to demonstrate their understanding. There is a mention of attachments with additional work, indicating ongoing exploration of the problem.

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Show that vectors v1, v2, and v3 span R3.

V1=(1,0,0)
V2=(2,2,0)
V3=(3,3,3)

I'm pretty sure I'm doing this wrong?

a(V1) +b(V2) +c(V3) = [x,y,z]

for (a= 0, b = 0, c = 1/3)

[0,0,0] +[0,0,0] +[1,1,1] = [x,y,z]

[1,1,1] = [x,y,z]
 

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judahs_lion said:
Show that vectors v1, v2, and v3 span R3.

V1=(1,0,0)
V2=(2,2,0)
V3=(3,3,3)

I'm pretty sure I'm doing this wrong?

a(V1) +b(V2) +c(V3) = [x,y,z]

for (a= 0, b = 0, c = 1/3)

[0,0,0] +[0,0,0] +[1,1,1] = [x,y,z]

[1,1,1] = [x,y,z]

Not right. In a nutshell you want to show that for an arbitrary vector <x, y, z>, there are some constants a, b, and c so that aV1 +bV2 +cV3 = <x,y,z>.

You can do this by solving the matrix equation Ab = x for b, where the columns of matrix A are your vectors V1, V2, and V3. The vector I show as b is <a, b, c>, and the vector I show as x is <x, y, z>.
 
Try showing that you can generate the standard basis of R3, {(1,0,0), (0,1,0), (0,0,1)}, using the elements v1, v2, v3. For example, what combination of these vectors will give you (0,1,0)?
 
Is there any way u dumb it down just a lil more , I still feel very lost.
 
Ok, I got this far

SEE ATTACHMENT
 

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You want to show that {v1, v2, v3} = V spans R3. You already know that the vectors (1,0,0), (0,1,0), and (0,0,1) span R3. So you can try showing that V generates (0,1,0) and (0,0,1) and thus generates R3
 
How do I know they span R3?
 
judahs_lion said:
Ok, I got this far

SEE ATTACHMENT

The work in the attachment looks fine. If you can row-reduce your matrix to the identity matrix [1 0 0; 0 1 0; 0 0 1], that's enough to guarantee that your three vectors span R3.
 

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