Do you feel proud to your contry?

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The discussion centers around national pride, with participants expressing their feelings about their respective countries. A Chinese participant highlights various aspects of China that evoke pride, such as its cultural heritage, economic power, and historical significance. Others from countries like Norway, the US, and Canada share their own sources of pride, often focusing on cultural contributions, historical achievements, and societal values. Some participants express ambivalence about nationalism, suggesting it can lead to negative behaviors, while others emphasize the importance of recognizing both the positive and negative aspects of their nations. The conversation touches on the complexities of national identity, with some advocating for a more global perspective that values cultural diversity over national pride. The dialogue reflects a mix of pride in cultural heritage and critical reflection on historical actions and current issues.
  • #61
I'm proud of a few individuals in my country. Not necessarily everything about them, because everyone has their warts. But proud of my country? No, I leave such primitive emotions for the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei and other völkisch movements of their ilk that have plagued modern history. I don't know why boys get attracted to that nonsense. If you can't find a girlfriend or you're dissatisfied with your current partner, there are far more interesting and worthwhile hobbies to take up, like physics, mountain climbing and nudism. And if you really feel the need to sacrifice your individuality to group-think, join an amateur football club. Just stay out of politics, for the sake of everyone!
 
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  • #62
fourier jr said:
-- Canada's so liberal (ie 2nd country to legalize gay marriage, considering decriminalizing pot, etc etc)
4th. Netherlands, Belgium and Spain beat us (Spain only by 17 days!).
what WOULDN'T a Canadian be proud of? everything written about in RT naylor's http://www.web.net/blackrosebooks/histcanb.htm & what it led to. & brian mulroney especially. that is all
Brian Mulroney is every Canadian's secret shame.
 
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  • #63
brewnog said:
Of course you can, and I promise, almost.
Thanks but there's a big problem. I've promised to be nice and polite with Mr wolram! :cry: What do you think of your country when everyone around here knows Mr wolram is your countryman? :rolleyes:
 
  • #64
Lisa! said:
Thanks but there's a big problem. I've promised to be nice and polite with Mr wolram! :cry: What do you think of your country when everyone around here knows Mr wolram is your countryman? :rolleyes:

Where there's muck, there's brass. :smile:
Or, to say it properly, 'weer t'zmuk t'sprass'.[/size]
 
  • #65
brewnog said:
Where there's muck, there's brass. :smile:
Or, to say it properly, 'weer t'zmuk t'sprass'.[/size]
I'm not allowed to :smile: but I can't control myself! So :smile: :smile:
 
  • #66
I'm proud not to be involved in any form of nationalism. Why should I be anymore proud of an American than a non-American?
 
  • #67
brewnog said:
Yes yomamma, that was Moonbear's point I think. Pudding is usually a desert, I suppose, but Yorkshire pudding works best with onion gravy, and black pudding works best with a Full English! Mmmm!

There are few things better than a massive, well-cooked Yorkshire pudding, with a few nice slices of rare roast Aberdeen Angus which was soaked in red wine the night before, covered in onion gravy, with a good dollop of horseradish, and some nice Dijon mustard (something France can be proud of). Mmmmmmmmmmmmm!
Brewnog...MARRY ME. Well, only if you can feed me what you've just described. :redface:
 
  • #68
brewnog said:
Ahhhhhhh, black pudding, that'll be it. I was telling you about it a while back, it's a sausage made from congealed pigs' blood. Read up the post for yomamma's thoughts!
Yeah, I've been reading this thread out of order. Sausage made out of blood clots. I can give you lots of clotted sheep's blood if you want it, we just throw the clots away after we get the serum off it. :rolleyes: (Pardon me while I go vomit at the thought of eating that.)[/size]

But is it any wonder we're all confused about what pudding is? First I thought pudding was, well, pudding, you know, custard type stuff. Then I visited Britain and realized it applied to the entire dessert menu, but now it also includes bread you eat with or before your main course, and some nasty sausage you eat as breakfast food! Is there any rhyme or reason to it?
 
  • #69
BobG said:
Could have done without the first as well. Oh, wait, I thought he said paperwork. :rolleyes:

You don't acquaint to Chinese culture and history much. The world's first bomb was came from China, in about 1200 years ago, in Tang dynasty period. Since that, bombs transmitted to Eastern Asian, then Europe, last Americas. If there is no Chinese bombs, no Renaissance and no the break of feudalism of Europe.
 
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  • #70
Whaaat, no one from Australia has contributed yet.

Ok, now Mt Rushmore is nice and all, but its nothing compared to the giant Merino, Bananna, Mandarin, Rocking Horse, Barra, Cigarette, Lobster, Golden Guitar... et al. But seriously,

1. We are a nation descended from convicts.
2. We are a very old country geologically, which I think explains a few things like the kangaroo and platypus. Obviously God was testing out a few crazy ideas here first, before making the rest of the world.
3. On Australia Day, the whole country takes the day off work, spends the day on the beach with an esky full of beer, and then goes home for a barbie.
4. Aussie Rules Football.
5. Words like bonza, beaut, strewth, bloody oath, sheila, blue and fair dinkum.
6. Paul Hogan, Angus Young, Shane Warne, Cold Chisel, Steve Irwin (err, scratch that last one).
7. We invented the hills hoist, vegemite, boomerang, ute, cork hat, esky, panel van, wine cask
8. The Larrimah pub was built in just 1 weekend.
9. Cane Toad races
10. We invented the Bikini!
11. Thongs
12. More Aussies believe in aliens than god
13. Only 2 percent of Australians know the name of our head of state.

And of course all those boring things like the harbour bridge, opera house etc...
 
  • #71
arildno said:
Guiness is disgusting.
A pint of bitter is divine.

North Coast Rasputin Stout is better, but Guinness is the nectar of life. Don't give the English credit for it, either. It's an Irish brew.
 
  • #72
Evo said:
Brewnog...MARRY ME. Well, only if you can feed me what you've just described. :redface:


What's in it for me? :-p
 
  • #73
Evo said:
http://www.bpic.co.uk/bookrevs/yorkshire_pudding.gif
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Whatever country this thing was made in needs to have its citizens tested for the plague... and shot.
 
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  • #74
Pengwuino said:
Whatever country this thing was made in needs to have its citizens tested for the plague... and shot.

Well you won't have any," spotted dick", then, another british pudding.
I make two versions of yokie pud, one savory, and one that's delicious with
strawberry jam, and," toad in the hole", with my secret gravy recipe is a
meal fit for a king.
And don't forget bread pudding, or bread and butter pudding, yummy.
 
  • #75
What is up with UK food? Neither the Scots, Irish, or English have contributed anything positive to world cuisine. Heck, I think the only European country I would be proud of on a culinary basis is Italy. Even then I would primarily be proud of Calabria.
 
  • #77
loseyourname said:
What is up with UK food? Neither the Scots, Irish, or English have contributed anything positive to world cuisine. Heck, I think the only European country I would be proud of on a culinary basis is Italy. Even then I would primarily be proud of Calabria.

Well the only thing America has done for food is make food muuuuuuuuuuuch bigger
 
  • #78
loseyourname said:
What is up with UK food? Neither the Scots, Irish, or English have contributed anything positive to world cuisine. Heck, I think the only European country I would be proud of on a culinary basis is Italy. Even then I would primarily be proud of Calabria.

Pasta, pasta, pasta, pasta, and a round thing with stuff on it, man you aint eaten proper english grub if you think that stuff is good.
 
  • #79
Southern Italian cuisine is not big on pasta.

I don't necessarily blame you guys. All of the wonderful vegetables, fruits, and herbs that grow in Italy and make the food so delightfully flavorful don't grow that far north.
 
  • #80
yu_wing_sin said:
Do you feel proud to your contry?

I'm very glad I was born in Sweden, but I can not say that I'm proud of that, I just happened to be very lucky.

Since I'm not the one who "built" Sweden, I cannot say I'm more proud of "my" country than I am proud of for example Norway or Australia.

"Patriotism" is probably the uggliest word ever.
 
  • #81
cragwolf said:
I'm proud of a few individuals in my country. Not necessarily everything about them, because everyone has their warts. But proud of my country? No, I leave such primitive emotions for the Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei and other völkisch movements of their ilk that have plagued modern history. I don't know why boys get attracted to that nonsense. If you can't find a girlfriend or you're dissatisfied with your current partner, there are far more interesting and worthwhile hobbies to take up, like physics, mountain climbing and nudism. And if you really feel the need to sacrifice your individuality to group-think, join an amateur football club. Just stay out of politics, for the sake of everyone!

Well said!
 
  • #82
EL said:
"Patriotism" is probably the uggliest word ever.

It's so chauvinistic, isn't it? Why can't we be 'matriotic?'
 
  • #83
loseyourname said:
It's so chauvinistic, isn't it? Why can't we be 'matriotic?'

Exactly my point! :-p ...or...
 
  • #84
Moonbear said:
But is it any wonder we're all confused about what pudding is? First I thought pudding was, well, pudding, you know, custard type stuff. Then I visited Britain and realized it applied to the entire dessert menu, but now it also includes bread you eat with or before your main course, and some nasty sausage you eat as breakfast food! Is there any rhyme or reason to it?
Alton Brown goes into the entymology of the word "pudding" in his pudding show. It really does span a lot of different meanings. Pudding, originally, was english and was pretty much anything that had bread in it. What we refer to as dessert pudding today is an American concoction. I can transcribe the entire segment if anyone so desires.
 
  • #85
The online etymology dictionary can be helpful here:

pudding

c.1305, "a kind of sausage: the stomach or one of the entrails of a pig, sheep, etc., stuffed with minced meat, suet, seasoning, boiled and kept till needed," perhaps from a W.Gmc. stem *pud- "to swell" (cf. O.E. puduc "a wen," Westphalian dial. puddek "lump, pudding," Low Ger. pudde-wurst "black pudding," Eng. dial. pod "belly," also cf. pudgy). Other possibility is that it is from O.Fr. boudin "sausage," from V.L. *botellinus, from L. botellus "sausage" (change of Fr. b- to Eng. p- presents difficulties, but cf. purse). The modern sense had emerged by 1670, from extension to other foods boiled or steamed in a bag or sack. Ger. pudding, Fr. pouding, Swed. pudding, Ir. putog are from Eng. Puddinghead "amiable stupid person" is attested from 1851.

I especially like that "puddinghead" meant "amiable stupid person" in 1851.
 
  • #86
:rolleyes: So does every one know what a pudding is now :smile:
 
  • #87
Kazza_765 said:
Whaaat, no one from Australia has contributed yet.

10. We invented the Bikini!
11. Thongs

oh yeah... www.wickedweasel.com seems to be the master of that sort of stuff :biggrin:
 
  • #88
loseyourname said:
What is up with UK food? Neither the Scots, Irish, or English have contributed anything positive to world cuisine. Heck, I think the only European country I would be proud of on a culinary basis is Italy. Even then I would primarily be proud of Calabria.

Typical, the world allways forgets about the Welsh ! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

(Oh ... yeah the thread) I am proud to be Welsh :approve: and no we haven`t made any great significant contribution to world cuisine :frown:
 
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  • #89
Alton Brown's show is great. In case anyone wanted to know. :smile:
 
  • #90
zanazzi78 said:
Typical, the world allways forgets about the Welsh ! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

(Oh ... yeah the thread) I am proud to be Welsh :approve: and no we haven`t made any great significant contribution to world cuisine :frown:

I didn't forget about the Welsh, just figured you weren't significant enough to warrant mentioning along with other Brits. Imagine if we were talking about the Iberian peninsula. Everyone will bring up Portugal and Spain, but does anyone really care about Andorra?
 

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