Does Burning Material Create Ash and Smoke?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the chemical processes involved in burning materials, specifically focusing on whether oxygen atoms combine with the material being burned to form ash, soot, and smoke. Participants explore the nature of combustion, the products formed, and the role of oxygen in these reactions.

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  • Exploratory
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  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether oxygen atoms from the air combine with the atoms of burning materials, such as paper, to form ash, soot, and smoke.
  • Another participant asserts that the visible smoke and ash consist of leftover carbon from the combustion process, while carbon dioxide and water vapor, which are also products of combustion, are not visible.
  • References to oxidation processes are made, highlighting that combustion is a rapid oxidation reaction, contrasting it with slower processes like rusting.
  • There is a mention of the necessity of oxygen for fire, prompting further clarification on its role in combustion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the role of oxygen in forming ash and smoke, with some asserting that visible products are primarily carbon remnants, while others seek clarification on the chemical interactions involved. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing views present.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the chemical processes and definitions of combustion and oxidation may not be fully explored, leading to potential gaps in understanding the complete reaction dynamics.

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Hello,

Ive got what some can call a simple question. When an object is burning, I know the 3 things a fire needs are energy, fuel and oxygen. When the object, let's say a sheet of paper, do the oxygen atoms combine with atoms of the paper and become the ash, soot, and smoke the results? I have a basic knowledge that there is CO2 released, which I would have to go and say that O2 combine with C during that reaction, which is part of the smoke. Does the Ash contain the oxygen that was used up by the reaction as well as the smoke?
 
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mvan4310 said:
Hello,

Ive got what some can call a simple question. When an object is burning, I know the 3 things a fire needs are energy, fuel and oxygen. When the object, let's say a sheet of paper, do the oxygen atoms combine with atoms of the paper and become the ash, soot, and smoke the results? I have a basic knowledge that there is CO2 released, which I would have to go and say that O2 combine with C during that reaction, which is part of the smoke. Does the Ash contain the oxygen that was used up by the reaction as well as the smoke?

No. The smoke and ash you can see are broken up left-over bits of carbon from the reaction. Carbon dioxide is a gas and is transparant, so you can't see it. As is water vapour, the other product of the reaction.
 
Check here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire

and note some of the links like oxidation:

"Oxidation is the loss of electrons or an increase in oxidation state by a molecule, atom, or ion."

fire is a self sustaining chain reaction: rapid oxidation...in contrast to,say, rusting...which is slow.
 
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Naty1 said:
Check here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire

and note some of the links like oxidation:

"Oxidation is the loss of electrons or an increase in oxidation state by a molecule, atom, or ion."

fire is a self sustaining chain reaction: rapid oxidation...in contrast to,say, rusting...which is slow.

I thought fire had to include oxygen.
 

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