Does Dynamic Light Scattering Follow the Same Frequency as the Incident Signal?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the behavior of dynamic light scattering (DLS) in relation to the frequency of the incident signal, particularly in the context of weak coupling between x-rays and matter. Participants explore the implications of linearity in systems and the nature of frequency changes in scattered light.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that linear systems typically respond to an input signal with an output at the same frequency, leading to confusion regarding the observed frequency changes in scattered light.
  • Another participant explains that in x-ray DLS, known as x-ray photon correlation spectroscopy (XPCS), the change in frequency is negligible and suggests interpreting the speckle pattern as an elastic snapshot of the system's configuration.
  • A participant questions whether measuring the intensity of the scattered field at different frequencies would yield a delta function if frequency changes are indeed negligible.
  • One participant challenges the assumption that linearity excludes frequency change, arguing that linearity only implies a proportional relationship between the intensities of incoming and outgoing light.
  • Another participant references a source that describes how a linear system responds at the same frequency as the input, indicating a need for further investigation into this claim.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between linearity and frequency change, with some asserting that linearity implies no frequency change while others contest this notion. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the implications of these perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various assumptions about linear systems and frequency response, but there are no definitive proofs provided to support the claims made. The discussion also highlights the dependence on specific definitions and interpretations of frequency changes in the context of DLS.

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Hi guys, I was studying dynamic light scattering experiment and I had a problem! Here's the thing:
I read that in case of weak coupling between x-rays and matter the whole system behaves as a linear system. I knew that linear systems respond to an input signal with an output that has the same frequency. So I would expect the scattered field to have the same frequency of the incident one, but obviously this doesn't happen (otherwise we would have no inelastic scattering). So? What am I missing?
Thanks
 
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X-ray DLS is called XPCS (x-ray photon correlation spectroscopy). The change in frequency is negligible, you can interpret the speckle pattern as elastic snapshot of the system's configuration at that point in time. You take another snapshot later and compare.

http://sector7.xray.aps.anl.gov/~dufresne/UofM/xpcs.html
 
By doing what you are saying I can get the field's correlation function, am I right? And what about the spectral density? If I use a filter in my experiment and I can measure the intensity of the scattered field at different frequencies. So if the change in frequency is negligible i would get something that looks like a delta, is that so?
 
I don't see immediately why linearity should exclude frequency change. After all, linearity only means that the intensity of the exiting light is proportional to the intensity of the incoming light.
 
I don't know exactly if there is a particular proof for that, I just remember it from my classes. But giving a quick look on wikipedia it seems to be truth:
"In simplest terms, if a sine wave is injected into a system at a given frequency, a linear system will respond at that same frequency with a certain magnitude and a certain phase angle relative to the input" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frequency_response)
I will look for other sources!
 

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