Does Every Nonempty Proper Subset of R^n Have a Nonempty Boundary?

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The discussion revolves around proving that every nonempty proper subset of Rn has a nonempty boundary. Participants are exploring definitions and properties related to boundaries in the context of topology.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • One participant attempts to show that for a point in the subset, both the intersection with the subset and its complement are nonempty. Another considers using induction on the number of elements in the subset. There is also a suggestion to assume the boundary is empty and find a contradiction, with some uncertainty about the implications of this assumption. Participants discuss the definition of boundary and explore the properties of closed and open sets in connected spaces.

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The discussion is active, with various approaches being considered. Some participants are questioning the definitions and properties involved, while others are exploring the implications of assuming certain conditions about the subset. There is no explicit consensus yet, but multiple lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants are navigating the definitions of boundaries and the properties of subsets in Rn, with references to connected spaces and the nature of open and closed sets. There is an underlying assumption that the proof may involve properties of connectedness in the usual topology of Rn.

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Homework Statement


Prove that every nonempty proper subset of Rn has a nonempty boundary.

The Attempt at a Solution



First of all, I let S be an nonempty subset of Rn and S does not equal Rn.

I tried to go about this in 2 different ways:

1) let x be in S and show that B(r,x) ∩ S ≠ ø and B(r,x) ∩ Sc≠ ø. I figured this wouldn't work with just one x in S. Or perhaps, I thought I should use induction on the number of elements in S?
2) Assume that bdS is empty and find a contradiction. However, I wasn't able to figure out a contradiction here. Unless, this implies that S equals Rn, then that's a contradiction. But I'm not quite sure it implies that. I think that this is the proof you use to show that Rn and the empty set are the only 2 that are both open and closed.

Thanks for your help! =)

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What's the definition of boundry?
 
bd(S) = {x in Rn s.t. B(r,x)∩ S ≠ ø and B(r,x) ∩ Sc≠ ø for every r>0}
 
Take a point x in S and a point y in S^C and consider the line t*x+(1-t)*y for t in [0,1].
 
Well you could assume the contrary and first prove that S must be closed and similarly that S must be open. Now which are the only sets in a connected space with that property?
 
river_rat said:
Well you could assume the contrary and first prove that S must be closed and similarly that S must be open. Now which are the only sets in a connected space with that property?

Redyelloworange is aware of that, he mentions that he thinks the goal is to prove that the n-dimensional reals are connected under the usual topolgy:
I think that this is the proof you use to show that Rn and the empty set are the only 2 that are both open and closed.
 

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