Does every object have capacitance?

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The discussion centers on whether every object has an associated capacitance, exploring the concept of capacitance in various contexts, including single wires and non-conductive materials. Participants examine the theoretical and practical implications of capacitance in both conductive and non-conductive objects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that if an object can be charged, it has capacitance defined by the equation C=Q/V, where Q is charge and V is potential.
  • Others argue that capacitance is typically associated with two conducting objects in close proximity, noting that the capacitance of isolated objects is usually very small.
  • A participant suggests that all objects have the potential for capacitance, particularly if they are non-conductive or electrically isolated from other objects.
  • One participant provides an example involving a CRT screen, explaining how it can develop a charge and create an electric field, illustrating capacitance in non-conductive materials.
  • Another participant mentions that humidity affects the ability of air to conduct charges, impacting the discharge of static electricity and relating it to capacitance.
  • A later reply presents a mathematical example of capacitance between concentric conducting shells, suggesting that everything has some capacitance to something, citing a specific capacitance value for a sphere in a room.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of capacitance, with some asserting that all objects can exhibit capacitance under certain conditions, while others maintain that capacitance is primarily relevant to conductive objects. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent and implications of capacitance in non-conductive materials.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include varying definitions of capacitance, the dependence on specific conditions for charge and potential, and the unresolved nature of capacitance in isolated versus conductive scenarios.

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Does every object have a capacitance associated with it? For example, is there a capacitance in a single wire or a chair? If so, can you please explain why because I was taught that capacitance is associated with two conducting objects. Thank you.
 
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stingray191 said:
Does every object have a capacitance associated with it? For example, is there a capacitance in a single wire or a chair? If so, can you please explain why because I was taught that capacitance is associated with two conducting objects. Thank you.

If an object can be charged then it has capacitance defined by the equation C=Q/V.Here Q is the charge and V the potential.Capacitance is usually associated with two conducting objects in close proximity because the capacitance of isolated objects is extremely small.
 
My understanding is:
capacitance is the ability to hold an electric potential different than the electic potential of objects near it.
In that case, all objects have the potential to have capacitance, they just need to either; a) be non-conductive or b) be electrically issolated from the other object.
Items that are non-conductive (relatively) still bleed charge, just a lot slower, so the difference is noticable.
Take a CRT screen. The electron beam coming from the back charges the screen (glass) makign a noticable field. It feels a little like fur. If a little fabric softner is sprayed on the CRT, that field dissipates.
The same thing happens with cloths.
Humid air can conduct charges easier than dry air. This is the reason you can shock people with static electicity easier in the winter. Heating air reduces its humidity meaning it takes longer for a static charge to dissipate. The discharge when you zap someone is the equalizing of capacitance.

Another way of saying this is:
Capacitance is the measure of how much electrical potential difference an object can hold in reference to another object.
This applies to all objects.

You see capacitance discussed in conductors more often because that is where capacitance causes the most problems. Conductors will induce a charge in another conductor this induced charge can cause problems if not planned for or can be used if planned for.
 
stingray191 said:
Does every object have a capacitance associated with it? For example, is there a capacitance in a single wire or a chair? If so, can you please explain why because I was taught that capacitance is associated with two conducting objects. Thank you.
The capacitance between two concentric conducting shells of radius b and a, b>a, is

C = 4 pi e0 ab/(b-a)

so the capacitance of a 5-cm radius sphere in a 5 meter radius room (with grounded plumbing, wires, etc in the walls) is about 5.5 picofarads. So everything does have some capacitance to something.
Bob S
 

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