Does need to have a PE license?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around whether a Professional Engineer (PE) license is necessary for a Field Service Engineer to troubleshoot and diagnose variable frequency drives (VFDs) and electrical circuits. Participants share their experiences and perspectives on the requirements in various work environments, particularly in industrial settings.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that a PE license is not required for troubleshooting and repairing existing systems, emphasizing that practical experience may suffice.
  • Others mention that the requirement for a PE may depend on the specific customer or organizational policies, indicating that it could be a contractual or liability concern.
  • A participant notes that confusion may arise from the use of the term "engineer" versus "technician," suggesting that the latter might be more appropriate for those not involved in design work.
  • One participant recounts their own experiences with stringent requirements from specific companies, highlighting the variability in expectations across different industries.
  • Concerns are raised about the implications of needing a PE for troubleshooting, with some arguing that the PE is typically associated with design responsibilities rather than repair work.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether a PE license is necessary, with multiple competing views presented regarding the requirements based on context and specific job roles.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the specific circumstances under which a PE might be required, indicating that it may depend on customer demands or organizational policies. There is also mention of varying interpretations of what constitutes engineering work versus technical work.

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Hi all,

I am new to this forum and always wanted to participate and become a member of an engineering forum. I used to work as a Field Engineer for a company that creates control engineering systems. I spent a lot of time out there in the field fixing and repairing a lot of VFD's.

I have come into a confrontation with someone specificaly telling me that I need to have a PE inorder for me to assist my customers in fixing the VFD's.

The question I pose to you all is this...Does one need to have a PE license in order to work as a Field Service Engineer for troubleshooting drive parameters and diagnosing electrical circuits?

Any feedback would help

Vsdguy
 
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Welcome to the PF, vsdguy. I think you need to post more information about the environment that you are working in. For example, I got pressure in my consulting days here in Northern California, USA that I needed to have PE credentials in order to consult, but my true performance resume was generally more than enough to get me work.
 
No, you absolutely do not need a PE for that, though they should probably call you a technician instead of an engineer to avoid confusion.
 
Thank you all,

I have the same thing happening to me berkeman. I guess I spent a lot of time out in the field working with various industrial applications.
I guess after all as long as I fixed the problems and got production up and running it all that mattered. The environment I have been and am working is mostly industrial and involving industrial control systems involving Vfd's and electric motors.
The reason I chose to become a member of PF forum is that I see a lot of information is being exchanged for the purpose of good.

Thank you for the quick response.

vsdguy
 
The big question is who is telling you that you need the PE? If it is a customer, that could be one of their contractor requirements as a CYA on their end. If it is someone in your organisation, have them do the homework and show you written documentation stating the PE requirement. Usually the PE is for signing off designs, not troubleshooting/repairing existing ones.
 
FredGarvin said:
The big question is who is telling you that you need the PE?
That is the big question. When I was consulting for pulp and paper mills, (writing system descriptions and training manuals for chemical recovery boilers, power boilers, steam systems, turbine generators, and electrical distribution systems, primarily) my resume was sufficient for most jobs. The most stringent requirement was from Georgia-Pacific in Cedar Springs GA. They demanded that I be covered not only by $1M liability insurance (not a problem), but by worker's comp insurance. Since I was self-employed, that was a stretch, but I bought a policy anyway. Shortly afterward, the Maine State department of taxation sent me threatening letters every few weeks because I was not paying witholding taxes on my "employees", and every few weeks I sent them another letter explaining that the worker's comp insurance was a corporate requirement and that I was self-empoyed, but needed the WC certificate to gain access to the mill. They never gave up until the contract expired and I canceled the insurance. Talk about Catch 22! I could never have filed a WC claim against myself even if I had been injured!
 
No... your not involved in designing but basicaly on trouble shooting VFD's...
 

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