Does Sin(3x) = 3sinx have a provable limit at theta = 0?

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The limit of the function \(\lim_{\theta\rightarrow0}\frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta}\) equals 3, as established by the relationship \(\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin{\theta}}{\theta} = 1\). This leads to the conclusion that \(\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta} = 3\). However, the proof contains an "iffy" step where limits are dropped, which invalidates the conclusion that \(\sin(3\theta) = 3\sin(\theta)\) for all values of \(\theta\). The discussion emphasizes the importance of maintaining limits in mathematical proofs.

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This is a bizarre little proof that is probably wrong, but I want to know where
\lim_{\theta\rightarrow0}\frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta} = 3
This is provable quite easily, I don't think I need to do that atm...
well, we know that
\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin{\theta}}{\theta} = 1
So that would imply that
3\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin{\theta}}{\theta} = 3
thus implying that
\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta} = 3
By substitution
\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta} = \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta}
(iffy step)
If you drop the limit on both sides...
\frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta}=\frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta}
Which oh so quickly becomes
\sin{3\theta}=3\sin{\theta}
 
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Wooh said:
\lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta} = \lim_{\theta \rightarrow 0} \frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta}
(iffy step)
If you drop the limit on both sides...
\frac{\sin{3\theta}}{\theta}=\frac{3\sin{\theta}}{\theta}
Which oh so quickly becomes
\sin{3\theta}=3\sin{\theta}


Yes, that step is "iffy". With it, I can "prove" that sin(3θ) equals any function with the same limit as θ approaches zero. The step is invalid for the same reason that it is invalid to conclude that sin(3θ)=sin(θ) just because those two functions happen to be equal at θ=0.

edit: fixed quote bracket
 
Ok, cool, I can accept that. :)
 
Sure, for certain values of theta.

cookiemonster

Edit: What Tom said.
 
cookiemonster said:
Sure, for certain values of theta.

cookiemonster

Edit: What Tom said.
smartass :-p
 
Hey now, I was just saying the same thing Tom was. ;)

And getting to be a smartass is a privilege of being young!

cookiemonster
 

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