Does Spacetime Have Elastic Properties?

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I would like to know if it has any sense to talk about the concept of elasticity of spacetime. So, if spacetime is like a clothing that can be deformed by a big mass or a big energy, does this “clothing” has some elasticity considering for example the deformation that makes a big star in the empty?
 
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Victor Escudero said:
I would like to know if it has any sense to talk about the concept of elasticity of spacetime. So, if spacetime is like a clothing that can be deformed by a big mass or a big energy, does this “clothing” has some elasticity considering for example the deformation that makes a big star in the empty?
No, it doesn't. In General Relativity, mass causes a "deformation" of space-time but the whole concept of a "fabric" of space or spacetime is a very unfortunate remnant of Einstein's having use that phrase before everything was well understood and it persists to this day in pop-sci presentations (but not in serious physics). We talk about "curved" space-time, for example, because we use Euclidean Geometry as our base whereas space-time is actually described by Riemann geometry (it's non-Euclidean) and things move in straight lines (called "geodesics") as defined by that geometry but they are curved when viewed from the point of view of Euclidean Geometry.
 
Orodruin said:
To nitpick: Pseudo-Riemannian geometry or, to be more specific, Lorentzian geometry.
Yeah, I did learn that from some time back and I probably should just say it correctly since a beginner isn't likely to care about the distinction and it's better to be correct. Thanks.
 
Victor Escudero said:
I would like to know if it has any sense to talk about the concept of elasticity of spacetime. So, if spacetime is like a clothing that can be deformed by a big mass or a big energy, does this “clothing” has some elasticity considering for example the deformation that makes a big star in the empty?
The "rubber sheet" analogy is pretty flawed, so you can easily get misled. The basic equation of general relativity looks something like G=kT. In that equation, T is called the stress-energy tensor and actually contains the stress tensor from Hookes law and G is the curvature which seems like a geometric distortion similar to strain. So you might be tempted to think of k as being the stiffness and G the strain, but the units don't work out. Strain is dimensionless, but curvature has units of 1/m^2, so they are different things. Similarly, in Hooke's law the stiffness is measured in Pascals, but here it is Pascal/m^2
 
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Victor Escudero said:
I would like to know if it has any sense to talk about the concept of elasticity of spacetime.
phinds said:
No, it doesn't.
What about elasticity in the sense of metric expansion of space? I'm thinking of the common balloon and ant on a rubber rope analogies.
It seems like "elasticity" would only be compatible with a bounce model and not a forever expanding model.
 
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stoomart said:
What about elasticity in the sense of metric expansion of space?
That is part of the G I mentioned above
 
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stoomart said:
What about elasticity in the sense of metric expansion of space?
Space doesn't stretch, the geometry just changes and things get farther apart. English doesn't do well describing this.