Does Steel Remain Magnetic Above its Melting Point?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on whether steel retains its magnetic properties above its melting point, exploring the relationship between temperature and magnetism in ferromagnetic materials, particularly in the context of welding applications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the magnetic properties of steel at temperatures exceeding its melting point, questioning the temperature at which it loses magnetism and whether this occurs gradually or at a specific point.
  • Another participant references the Curie temperature, noting that ferromagnetic properties are lost before reaching the melting point, specifically mentioning that for iron, the Curie temperature is around 800 Celsius, while the melting point is approximately 1500 Celsius. They also indicate that the Curie temperature for steel varies based on carbon content.
  • A different participant expresses interest in using rare Earth magnets in conjunction with steel during welding to enhance penetration in difficult areas.
  • One participant asserts that steel would lose its magnetic properties at the Curie temperature but raises the point that welding involves current flow through the steel, which generates a magnetic field, though they are uncertain about its effectiveness.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present differing views on the specifics of steel's magnetic properties at high temperatures, particularly regarding the Curie temperature and its implications for welding. No consensus is reached on the effectiveness of magnetic fields generated during welding.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not clarify the specific carbon content of the steel in question, which may affect the Curie temperature. Additionally, the relationship between current flow during welding and its impact on magnetic properties remains unresolved.

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Does anyone know if steel is still magnetic at over it's melting temp? If it does lose it's magnetic properties as a liquid, at what point does it happen? Gradual or at a certain temp?
 
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Look up Curie temperature for ferromagnetic materials.
The ferromagnetic properties are lost way before the melting point.For iron the Curie temperature is about 800 Celsius whereas the melting point is about 1500 Celsius.
For steel it's a little more complicated as the properties depend on the carbon content.
 
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Too bad, I was thinking about incorporating rare Earth magnets on the back side of steel when welding to get deeper penetration in hard to get at places.
 
It would lose it properties at the curie temperature. But when welding there is a current running through the steel. And this current will produce a magnetic field. I just don't know if its enough to do anything.
 

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