Does the inverse square rule work with a magnetic field?

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The discussion centers on calculating the intensity of magnetic fields produced by elemental current elements and dipoles, specifically addressing the inverse square law (ISL) and its limitations. While an elemental current element produces a magnetic field that follows the ISL, real-world magnetic fields, particularly those from dipoles, exhibit an inverse cube dependence. The conversation highlights the complexity of calculating magnetic field strength, emphasizing the need for methods such as the Biot-Savart law and Gauss's law for magnetism to understand the angular dependence and multipole expansions of magnetic fields.

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I am interested in mini magnetospheres. How do i calculate the intensity of the field at a certain distance if i already know theits intensity at the source?
 
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An elemental current element produces a magnetic field that obeys the inverse square law. However real magnetic fields produced by a concatenation current elements or modeled as such result in fields that do not obey the ISL. In fact magnetic fields are produced by dipoles which have an inverse cube dependence for example a current in a loop of wire. These dipole fields also have an angular dependence with respect to the axis of symmetry of the dipole. For extensive sources the dependences can be more complex.
 
gleem said:
An elemental current element

What is an elemental current element?

TheAnt said:
I am interested in mini magnetospheres. How do i calculate the intensity of the field at a certain distance if i already know theits intensity at the source?

Calculating the strength of a magnetic field from a real source is not trivial. Many people simply end up measuring it instead of calculating it. As gleem said, the strength of the field is not simply a function of distance, but also of direction (strength at distance R from a pole is different than at distance R from the side). So there's not really a simple equation that will tell you the strength at a particular distance.
 
The leading-order multipole expansion of the magnetic field is the dipole field which goes like ##1/r^3## for ##r \rightarrow \infty##.
 
Thank you very much for the answers
 
by the way it is a good task to integrate the problem of planar motion of a particle in the gravity field of the dipole and describe the motion of the particle
 
wrobel said:
by the way it is a good task to integrate the problem of planar motion of a particle in the gravity field of the dipole and describe the motion of the particle
totally agree...use the lagrangian transformation
 
did not understand your suggestion
 
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Actually this problem is integrated as follows. In suitable polar coordinates the Hamiltonian is
$$H=\frac{1}{2m}\Big(p^2_r+\frac{p^2_\varphi}{r^2}\Big)+\frac{k\cos\varphi}{r^2}.$$
It is easy to see that the variables are separated:
$$H=\frac{p^2_r}{2m}+\frac{1}{2r^2}F;$$
here ##F=p^2_\varphi/m+2k\cos\varphi## is a first integral: ##\{F,H\}=0##
 
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wrobel said:
Actually this problem is integrated as follows. In suitable polar coordinates the Hamiltonian is
$$H=\frac{1}{2m}\Big(p^2_r+\frac{p^2_\varphi}{r^2}\Big)+\frac{k\cos\varphi}{r^2}.$$
It is easy to see that the variables are separated:
$$H=\frac{p^2_r}{2m}+\frac{1}{2r^2}F;$$
here ##F=p^2_\varphi/m+2k\cos\varphi## is a first integral: ##\{F,H\}=0##

Hamiltonian...of course...sorry
 

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