Does the piston ever stop moving in a running engine?

Click For Summary
In a running engine, the piston does come to a stop at top dead center (TDC) and bottom dead center (BDC) during its motion, where its instantaneous velocity is zero. This stoppage occurs as the piston changes direction, which is a fundamental aspect of its reciprocating motion. While the piston is in motion, it glides on a thin film of oil, minimizing metal-to-metal contact, but wear still occurs at the piston rings against the cylinder wall. The discussion highlights the distinction between instantaneous velocity and the overall concept of motion, emphasizing that while the piston may be momentarily stationary, it is still part of a continuous cycle of movement. Ultimately, the piston does stop moving in a linear sense during its operation in an engine.
  • #31


MacLaddy said:
Is the very bottom of the piston where it connects to the crankshaft considered the piston, or is that considered the push rod?

Thats called the connecting rod or conrod for short.

MacLaddy said:
You'll have to forgive my complete ignorance of physics, as I have not even taken a single class, but it seems to me that the top of the apparatus (the piston)- moving consistently "Up & down," obviously must stop to change directions.

You'd think it was obvious wouldn't you.

MacLaddy said:
However, as it's on a pivot, the "rod," (if that is considered part of the piston) does not stop moving; ever. It must move continuously as it's connected to a continuously moving crankshaft.

It's not counted as the piston. You are right in both cases. piston goes up and down, conrod up down and round.

MacLaddy said:
That is, until gas is $8.00 a gallon and you can't afford to drive the Hot Rod El Camino anymore.

In the UK petrol almost is that! It'a about £4.20 a gallon, so that's about $7
 
Science news on Phys.org
  • #32


Well groovy. I think that about sums it up.

No wonder y'all drive Mini's... This petrol addicted society would crash if gas were that expensive. (watch, you'll see it next year)
 
  • #33


Unless the lower rotor blower puller is out of balance the piston can never have instantaneous velocity. Unfortunately there is no such thing as a naturally aspirated internal combustion engine that can run with the lower rotor blower pulley out of balance thus….. the piston must stop moving at
TDC as well as BDC!

listen to FRED!
 
  • #34


The Omega Man said:
The piston never stops moving. It instantaneously changes direction.

Instantaneous velocity and motion are not the same thing.

Was this actually said? I couldn't believe it, so I searched the entire thread and I guess all this poster's posts were erased?

I thought the argument was about quantum effects or frames of reference, in which case at least it would be annoying, but not necessarily wrong. But here it was just a simple case of a guy not knowing what he's talking about.

As for the quantum effects and frames of references...there's certain reasonable assumptions that must be made when answering a question like this. The assumptions will vary based on the wording and the context, but in this instance, throwing in quantum effects, relativistic effects, and mixing it with the expansion of the universe is NOT reasonable, and will simply defeat the purpose of the question. That, or it's just a case of arm-waving by someone desparate for attention.

If we were to give any thought to these arguments, it would lead to the possiblility that when I got into my accident, someone could testify against me that it was MY fault because I was going 60000mph...clearly over the speed limit.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
4K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
1K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
  • · Replies 65 ·
3
Replies
65
Views
79K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
1K
  • · Replies 87 ·
3
Replies
87
Views
8K
Replies
15
Views
584
Replies
11
Views
4K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 31 ·
2
Replies
31
Views
3K