Does the vacuum of space have finite electrical resistance?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the electrical resistance of the vacuum of space, exploring whether it has a finite value or is truly infinite. Participants examine theoretical implications, experimental evidence, and the conditions under which current might flow in a vacuum, considering concepts from physics and electrical engineering.

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  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the vacuum of space may have a finite electrical resistance, hypothesizing that high enough voltage could polarize charged particles and allow current to flow.
  • Others argue that a true vacuum would have infinite electrical resistance, as there would be nothing to carry the current, although they acknowledge that interstellar space is not a true vacuum.
  • One participant mentions that high charge density can lead to the creation of virtual electrons from the vacuum, referencing experiments involving colliding nuclei.
  • Another participant points out that high-intensity microwaves can cause arcing in a vacuum, although this is more easily observed in air due to the availability of electrons.
  • Some participants challenge the idea of infinite resistance by stating that radio communication between Earth and spacecraft would not be possible if space had infinite resistance, suggesting that electrical permittivity plays a role instead.
  • There is a mention of the electric field required for pair production of particles from the vacuum, which is described as being extraordinarily high, indicating the conditions under which current might form in a vacuum.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the electrical resistance of space, with no consensus reached on whether it is finite or infinite. The discussion remains unresolved, with various hypotheses and arguments presented.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on definitions of a true vacuum, the assumptions regarding the behavior of charged particles, and the unresolved mathematical implications of the electric fields discussed.

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Air typically has a very high but non zero resistance. Given that air is just a medium, and that space is also just a medium, does the vacuum of space have a fundamental constant of electrical resistance, or is the electrical resistance of space truly infinite? How is this proven one way or the other, or can it even be proved at all realistically? Given that space has charged particles popping in and out of existence, my hypothesis is that space does have a finite value of electrical resistance, although it is extremely high. A high enough voltage could polarize charged particles in space and possibly cause a current to flow.

Assuming you had limitless voltage, could you make any current flow across two points in vacuum space?
 
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serp777 said:
Assuming you had limitless voltage, could you make any current flow across two points in vacuum space?

Google for "vacuum tube".
 
1. With a high enough charge density, virtual electrons can be popped out of the vacuum. The experiment was two nuclei colliding, which popped out electrons.
2. High intensity microwaves will cause arcing in the vacuum; although, the usual photos are in air, which arcs more easily (the electrons are readily available).
 
If space had infinite electrical resistance, it would be impossible for radio communication to exist between Earth and spacecraft . Radio telescopes would be giant hoaxes.
 
the thing is maybe with a few hundred volts space really is a perfect insulator but once the voltage goes high enough , or as in your hypothetical example is limitless or infinite a current path can indeed form in a vacuum carried out by electrons as they can form a current also through vacuum , hence why Nugatory suggested for googling vacuum tube.
remember that not the actual electrons are the first one to make the connection but the field , in this case the electric field which can go through space and indeed does so and attracts oppositely charged particles.
 
A true vacuum would have infinite electrical resistance because there is nothing to carry the current. Even interstellar space is far from a true vacuum though.
 
SteamKing said:
If space had infinite electrical resistance, it would be impossible for radio communication to exist between Earth and spacecraft . Radio telescopes would be giant hoaxes.

You must be thinking of electrical permittivity, radio communications don't rely on any type of conduction in the medium.
 
Imabuleva said:
A true vacuum would have infinite electrical resistance because there is nothing to carry the current. Even interstellar space is far from a true vacuum though.

Even a true vacuum would eventually break due to virtual particles being pulled from the vacuum and becoming real electrons and positrons (where the energy for the pair production would come from the static electric field energy density). A dimensional analysis shows that the electric field needed for that to happen would be of the order of E \sim \frac{m_e^2 c^3}{e \hbar} \sim 10^{18} V/m
That's clearly an absurdly large electric field.
 

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