Doppler Effect; Two Moving Objects

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the Doppler Effect as it applies to two automobiles moving towards each other, with specific speeds and emitted frequencies. The original poster presents a problem involving the calculation of the frequency perceived by each driver due to the motion of the other vehicle.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the setup of the Doppler Effect, questioning how to account for both moving sources and observers. There is confusion regarding the correct application of the Doppler formula and the relative speeds of the vehicles.

Discussion Status

Some participants are attempting to clarify the correct approach to the problem, noting the need to consider both vehicles' movements. There is an ongoing exploration of how to properly apply the Doppler Effect equations in this context, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the importance of using the correct reference frame for the speeds of the vehicles, emphasizing the need to consider their speeds relative to the ground or air rather than their relative speed to each other.

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Homework Statement



Two auto-mobiles are driving on the same road in opposite directions. The speed of the first auto-mobile is 90.0 km/h and that of the second is 60 km/h. The horns of both auto-mobiles emit tons of frequency 524 Hz. Calculate the frequency that the driver of each auto-mobile hears coming from the other auto-mobile.

Homework Equations



Doppler Effect

1. For a Moving Source and Stationary Object
f=fv/(v-vsource)

The Attempt at a Solution



Car one (90km/h) is moving 30 km/h toward the other.

f=524*340/(340-30)



Answer {593Hz, 594Hz}
 
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MAtkinson said:
Car one (90km/h) is moving 30 km/h toward the other.
How did you arrive at this?

Both cars are moving with respect to the road (and air) towards each other. You also need to revise your formula, since both observer and source are moving.
 
Wow never-mind that statement it would the cars would appear to be moving 150 km/h toward each other. But I'm still confused on how to setup the Doppler effect.
 
MAtkinson said:
Wow never-mind that statement it would the cars would appear to be moving 150 km/h toward each other. But I'm still confused on how to setup the Doppler effect.
Don't worry about their relative speed, but their speeds with respect to the ground/air. Just like there's a Doppler formula for a moving source, there's one for a moving observer. Here both source and observer are moving, so you must combine both formulas.
 

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