Dot Product: Understand When to Use Each Method

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding the dot product of vectors, specifically the two different methods for calculating it: the component-wise method and the geometric interpretation involving the angle between vectors. Participants explore when to apply each method based on the information available.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants note that the choice of method depends on the information provided and the desired outcome, suggesting that if the components of the vectors are known, the component-wise method is appropriate.
  • Others argue that if the lengths of the vectors and the angle between them are given, the geometric method is more suitable for calculating the dot product.
  • A participant provides an example using specific vector components to illustrate the component-wise calculation of the dot product.
  • Another example is presented where the lengths of the vectors and the angle are used to demonstrate the geometric method, reinforcing the idea that both methods can yield the same result under different conditions.
  • One participant mentions that in higher-dimensional spaces, the component-wise method can still be applied, while the geometric interpretation can help define the angle between vectors.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the applicability of both methods depending on the context, but there is no consensus on a singular approach to prefer in all situations.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the dependence on the specific information provided (components vs. lengths and angles) and the potential confusion arising from different explanations in various texts.

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I'm reading up on dot products and keep seeing two different examples.

One states that u[itex]\cdot[/itex]v = u[itex]_{i}[/itex][itex]\cdot[/itex]v[itex]_{i}[/itex] + u[itex]_{j}[/itex][itex]\cdot[/itex]v[itex]_{j}[/itex]

Another: u[itex]\cdot[/itex]v = |u|[itex]\cdot[/itex]|v|cosθ

I'm not understanding when to use the first or second method?
 
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mindheavy said:
I'm reading up on dot products and keep seeing two different examples.

One states that u[itex]\cdot[/itex]v = u[itex]_{i}[/itex][itex]\cdot[/itex]v[itex]_{i}[/itex] + u[itex]_{j}[/itex][itex]\cdot[/itex]v[itex]_{j}[/itex]

Another: u[itex]\cdot[/itex]v = |u|[itex]\cdot[/itex]|v|cosθ

I'm not understanding when to use the first or second method?
At the risk of stating something obvious, it depends on what information you are given and what you are trying to find. If you know the two vectors then you can find the dot product using the first equation. Then you can find the angle between the vectors using the second equation.

On the other hand, if you are given the lengths of the vectors and the angle between them, you can use the second equation to find the dot product.
 
Makes sense, I think the way the book I'm looking in words it was confusing me. Thanks
 
For example, if you are given that one vector is <1, 0, 0> and the other is <2, 2, 0> it is easy to calculate that the dot product is 1(2)+ 0(2)+ 0(0)= 2.

But if you are given that one angle has length 1, the other has length [itex]2\sqrt{2}[/itex], and the angle between them is [itex]\pi/4[/itex], it is easiest to calculate [itex](1)(2\sqrt{2})(cos(\pi'4)= 2[/itex].

By the way, in spaces of dimension higher than 3, we can use the "sum of products of corresponding components" to find the dot product between two vectors, then use [itex]|u||v|cos(\theta)[/itex] to define the "angle between to vectors".
 

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