Double Inequality: Find n0, c1, c2

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The discussion revolves around finding constants n0, c1, and c2 for double inequalities involving binomial expressions and exploring conditions under which a function f(n) is bounded by another function g(n). The subject area includes inequalities and limits in mathematical analysis.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to establish bounds for a binomial expression and questions the validity of specific constant values for c1 and c2. Another participant introduces a related inequality involving functions f(n) and g(n) and seeks to determine a suitable constant c. There is a discussion about the implications of certain values of c and the conditions under which the inequalities hold.

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Participants are exploring various approaches to establish the inequalities, with some guidance offered regarding the manipulation of the expressions. There is no explicit consensus, but the discussion is productive, with participants questioning assumptions and considering different interpretations of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under the constraints of finding constants that satisfy the inequalities for all n greater than a certain threshold n0. There is also a mention of conditions that functions f(n) and g(n) must satisfy, including positivity and relative size.

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Homework Statement


find n0,c1,c2 for which the following is true:
c1 nb <=(n-a)b<=c2(n-a)b , for all n > n0

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binomial_theorem" ?

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c1 nb <=(n-a)b<=c2(n-a)b
c1 nb <=nb-nb-1a+nb-2a2-...-ab<=c2nb

c1<=1-a/n + a2/n2-... -ab/nb<=c2

isn't this true, for c1=0 , c2=1 , n0 >a ? Since every fraction will be less than its predecessor in the alternating series

0<=1-a/n + a2/n2-... -ab/nb<=1
 
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Yes, that seems to be correct.
 
Okay , may i ask another one then?
Prove if
f(n) <= (g(n)-f(n) ) *c/2 (1) , for constant c, for all n >= n0

where f(n),g(n) >0 , g(n) > f(n)
for n>=0 .
if yes, find constant c, n0

from (1), we have

cg(n)-(c+2) f(n) >= 0 (a), or we can rewrite as

c( g(n)-f(n) ) -2f(n) >=0 (b)

a) c= 0 , -2 false
c<0 , false
c > 0 , ?

b)g-f > 0
c<=0, false
c=-2, false
c>0 ?

don't know how to get around this. any clues?
 
You'll need to find a c such that

[tex]c\geq\frac{2f(n)}{g(n)-f(n)}[/tex]

Maybe you can take the limit of the right-hand side and show that it is not infinite...
 
How will that information help?
 
That's worth poundering about...
 

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