Two Limit exercises of functions of two variables.

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The discussion focuses on finding and proving the limits of functions of two variables as they approach specific points, specifically (0,0) and (C,0) where C is non-zero. Participants emphasize the importance of using the epsilon-delta definition of limits to establish the existence of these limits. The first limit's existence is questioned, while the second limit is confirmed to be (0,0) due to the absence of discontinuities. Techniques such as polar coordinates and bounding functions are suggested for proving these limits.

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(I) Find the limit (x,y)->(0,0) of F, then prove it by definition.
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(II) Find the limit and prove it by definition of:
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as (x,y) approach (C,0), C different from zero.
I have previously asked it on Quora, but it doesn't appear to have answers any time soon, and then I've encountered this forum.
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As every limit, the idea is to prove that it exist a positive Delta, which delimits the values of (x,y), for every Epsilon greater than zero. The common way to do it is to find a functional expression of Epsilon as a variable of the function Delta, where the domain of that function goes from zero to infinity, (0, +inf). Now, I have tried on both exercises multiple ways of findings relations between |(x,y)| and the corresponding function, all have failed.

In the second exercise the limit is obviously (0,0), due it doesn't have any discontinuity issue. But in the first one, I'm not totally sure if the limit exists. If it does, is (0,0).

The only thing that I explored deeply is delimiting the sine function as follows:
Abs(Sin(t)) <= Abs(t), and then t=x*y, since x <= |(x,y)| (same for y), so x*y <= |(x,y)|^2
(If 0 < C1 <= C3, and 0 < C2 <= C3, then C1*C2 <= C3*C2 <= C3^2; that’s what I used)
But that only lead me to have some sort of function of x and y in the denominator, and that is not useful.
(I managed to delimit |F(x,y)|<= 1/(sqrt(1+abs(y)))

Unless having some relation of the sort |F(x,y)|<= 1/J(x,y) is useful, I think gaining a relation of |(x,y)| in the denominator does not worth the try.

I would really appreciate it if someone gives me some help on proving those limits :)
 

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Thomasyar said:
(I) Find the limit (x,y)->(0,0) of F, then prove it by definition.
View attachment 219827
(II) Find the limit and prove it by definition of:
View attachment 219828
as (x,y) approach (C,0), C different from zero.
I have previously asked it on Quora, but it doesn't appear to have answers any time soon, and then I've encountered this forum.
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View attachment 219830

As every limit, the idea is to prove that it exist a positive Delta, which delimits the values of (x,y), for every Epsilon greater than zero.
The problems ask you to first find each limit, and then prove each limit using the definition of a limit (i.e., with ##\delta## and ##\epsilon##).
For the first limit I would change to polar form so that you can evaluate the limit as r approaches 0.
Thomasyar said:
The common way to do it is to find a functional expression of Epsilon as a variable of the function Delta, where the domain of that function goes from zero to infinity, (0, +inf). Now, I have tried on both exercises multiple ways of findings relations between |(x,y)| and the corresponding function, all have failed.

In the second exercise the limit is obviously (0,0), due it doesn't have any discontinuity issue.
No, the limit is not (0, 0). The limit for each function, if it exists, will be a single number.
Thomasyar said:
But in the first one, I'm not totally sure if the limit exists. If it does, is (0,0).

The only thing that I explored deeply is delimiting the sine function as follows:
Abs(Sin(t)) <= Abs(t), and then t=x*y, since x <= |(x,y)| (same for y), so x*y <= |(x,y)|^2
(If 0 < C1 <= C3, and 0 < C2 <= C3, then C1*C2 <= C3*C2 <= C3^2; that’s what I used)
But that only lead me to have some sort of function of x and y in the denominator, and that is not useful.
(I managed to delimit |F(x,y)|<= 1/(sqrt(1+abs(y)))

Unless having some relation of the sort |F(x,y)|<= 1/J(x,y) is useful,
I don't see that this is useful.
Thomasyar said:
I think gaining a relation of |(x,y)| in the denominator does not worth the try.

I would really appreciate it if someone gives me some help on proving those limits :)
BTW, the homework template that you deleted is required here. In future posts please don't delete this template.
 
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