Double integral to find area of a portion.

In summary, you are having trouble with the sketch of the surface because it does not look like a section of a cylinder. You could have worked out the area just using basic High School geometry.
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the question is 3(b) on the attached pdf.




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The Attempt at a Solution



I could only get as far as the filling in the equation.
How do they change it to one integral.?
And also where did they get them substitutions from?

Any help would be greatly appeciated.
 

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First, you should make the sketch to understand how to project the surface. You haven't shown any work in your post.

The substitution used in the integral is due to the presence of ##\sqrt{8-y^2}=\sqrt{(\sqrt{8})^2-y^2}##
 
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raoulduke1 said:
I could only get as far as the filling in the equation.
Which would be formula (f) from the table at the end. Did you manage to sketch the region?
How do they change it to one integral.?
They are integrating over x and y ... they just did the integration over x first.
And also where did they get them substitutions from?
A physicist would use the sketch for part (a) to change coordinates soas to exploit the symmetry. Mathematicians are more formal... what they have described is a parameterization (in effect changing to cylindrical coordinates).

The substitutions are basically trig substitutions.
You know that if you have an integral like [tex]\int \frac{dx}{\sqrt{a-bx^2}}[/tex]... then you want to try a substitution of form [tex]x=\sqrt{\frac{a}{b}}\sin(t)[/tex].
 
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Simon Bridge said:
Which would be formula (f) from the table at the end. Did you manage to sketch the region?They are integrating over x and y ... they just did the integration over x first.
A physicist would use the sketch for part (a) to change coordinates soas to exploit the symmetry. Mathematicians are more formal... what they have described is a parameterization (in effect changing to cylindrical coordinates).

The substitutions are basically trig substitutions.
You know that if you have an integral like [tex]\int \frac{dx}{\sqrt{a-bx^2}}[/tex]... then you want to try a substitution of form [tex]x=\sqrt{\frac{a}{b}}\sin(t)[/tex].

Yes I sketched it.

so its basically a rectangle split into 4?
does that 4 before the integral mean they are integrating a quarter of the shape and multiplying it by 4?
 
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also how did the integral value change at the end from (2 and 0) to (pi/2 and 0)
 
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so its basically a rectangle split into 4?
No.

The surface is a cylinder, radius 2√2, aligned along the x axis.
The region is a 2x4 rectangle, centered at the origin, lying in the x-y plane, long side aligned to the y axis.

If your picture does not look like a section of a cylinder, then it is no wonder you are having trouble. In fact - if you had the right diagram, you could have worked out the area just using that and basic High School geometry: no calculus needed.

The 4 in front is partly the result of integrating the dx part. The rest is from using the symmetry. (the -y part is the same as the +y)

The limits of integration change with the substitution: the old limits were for y, the new limits are for t ... complete: when y=-2, t=?
 

What is a double integral?

A double integral is a type of integral that involves integrating a function of two variables over a two-dimensional region. It is used to find the volume, surface area, and other properties of 3D objects.

How is a double integral used to find the area of a portion?

A double integral can be used to find the area of a portion by integrating the function over the desired region. The limits of integration will correspond to the boundaries of the portion.

What are the steps to finding the area of a portion using a double integral?

The steps to finding the area of a portion using a double integral are:1. Identify the limits of integration for each variable.2. Set up the integral with the function and limits of integration.3. Solve the integral to find the value of the area.

Can a double integral be used to find the area of any shape?

Yes, a double integral can be used to find the area of any shape as long as the boundaries of the shape can be represented as functions of the two variables being integrated.

Are there any other applications of double integrals besides finding area?

Yes, besides finding area, double integrals have many other applications in mathematics and physics. They can be used to find volume, surface area, moments of inertia, and other properties of 3D objects. They are also used in calculating mass, center of mass, and moments in physics and engineering problems.

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