Double-slit with half-transparent mirror

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The discussion revolves around the implications of using a half-transparent mirror in a double-slit experiment. Participants explore how this setup affects interference patterns and the knowledge of which path a photon takes, considering both theoretical and experimental aspects.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that using a half-transparent mirror at one slit allows for partial knowledge of the photon's path, suggesting that this would lead to a reduction in the interference pattern rather than its complete destruction.
  • Others argue that the interference effects can vary from 0% to 100%, depending on the setup, and that a pattern will emerge where half of the intensity comes from interference and half from a blurred pattern.
  • There is a suggestion that the maximum intensity in the interference pattern will still occur at the midpoint between the slits, albeit with reduced intensity differences.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the nature of the interference pattern when which-path information is available, questioning the definition of "perfect" which-path information.
  • It is noted that while half of the photons contribute to the interference pattern, the other half do not, leading to a discussion about the intensity and flux of photons passing through the half mirror.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that there will be some interference present when using a half-transparent mirror, but there is no consensus on the extent of this interference or the implications of which-path information. Multiple competing views remain regarding the nature of the interference pattern and the measurement of photon intensity.

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Participants express uncertainty about the maximum intensity location in the interference pattern and the implications of measuring photon intensity. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions about the behavior of photons in this modified double-slit setup.

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What about if the wall were not transparent but one of the slits equiped with a half transparent mirror ?

Then we would half-know which path was taken hence we should only obtain a half interference but it would not be completely destroyed ?
 
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jk22 said:
What about if the wall were not transparent but one of the slits equiped with a half transparent mirror ?

Then we would half-know which path was taken hence we should only obtain a half interference but it would not be completely destroyed ?

That's correct, you can have 100% interference effects, 0% (none), or any value in-between if set up accordingly.
 
I will try to do the calculation, but from the onset I cannot tell if the maximum will be no more at the middle point between the slits, or if it will only diminish the interference.
 
jk22 said:
I will try to do the calculation, but from the onset I cannot tell if the maximum will be no more at the middle point between the slits, or if it will only diminish the interference.
The maximum will still be at the middle point. What you will see is a pattern where half of the intensity is from an interference pattern, and half from a blurred out pattern with no interference. In other words, it will look like the two are overlayed. So you basically end up with the same interference pattern, but with reduced differences in intensity between regions with constructive vs. destructive interference.
 
Ok. But there still is an interference and on the other hand we know which path the single photon takes since points with half intensity have gone through the half mirror?
 
jk22 said:
Ok. But there still is an interference and on the other hand we know which path the single photon takes since points with half intensity have gone through the half mirror?
Yes, half of the photons will create the usual interference pattern, and the other half will not.
 
But in some sense we get an interference pattern with the which path information ?
 
jk22 said:
But in some sense we get an interference pattern with the which path information ?
Yes, because the which path information is not perfect.
 
Heinera said:
Yes, because the which path information is not perfect.

If we could measure the intensity of each photon then we could say which slit it passed through. I don't know what is meant by perfect.
 
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jk22 said:
If we could measure the intensity of each photon then we could say which slit it passed through. I don't know what is meant by perfect.
No, the intensity of each photon would be the same. A photon with frequency f can only have energy E = hf, where h is Planck's constant.
 
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But we agree that the beam passing through the half mirror will have less intensity ? Can we say the flux of photons is smaller ?
 
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jk22 said:
But we agree that the beam passing through the half mirror will have less intensity ? Can we say the flux of photons is smaller ?
In a sense, yes. Half of the photons will pass through both slits and will generate an interference pattern, the other half pass through one slit only and do not contribute to the pattern.
 

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