Doubt in plotting Vector Fields

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This discussion focuses on the confusion surrounding the plotting of vector fields, specifically the function F(x,y) = (x,y). The user initially misunderstands the representation of points and vectors, leading to the belief that plotting would result in only points. However, it is clarified that the vector should be represented as F(x,y) = xi + yj, where the tail is at (x,y) and the head is at (x + x, y + y). The online plotter used does not handle zero vectors correctly, which contributes to the confusion.

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Hi,

I have a doubt in plotting the vector field.

In the post https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=155579 it is mentioned that a vector field could be plotted for F (x,y) by, marking the (x,y) as the tail and F(x,y) as the head portion.

If so, then consider the function, F(x,y)=(x,y)

The, if the input is (2,4) then output is (2,4)

Then, if it plotted, there will be only points everywhere right? Because, the head and the tail portion is marked at the same point.

But, when I tried the same using a online plotter (http://cose.math.bas.bg/webMathematica/MSP/Sci_Visualization/VectorField ) , I got a different result, which I have attached.
 

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iamnotageek said:
Hi,

I have a doubt in plotting the vector field.

In the post https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=155579 it is mentioned that a vector field could be plotted for F (x,y) by, marking the (x,y) as the tail and F(x,y) as the head portion.

If so, then consider the function, F(x,y)=(x,y)

The, if the input is (2,4) then output is (2,4)

Then, if it plotted, there will be only points everywhere right? Because, the head and the tail portion is marked at the same point.
Right.
iamnotageek said:
But, when I tried the same using a online plotter (http://cose.math.bas.bg/webMathematica/MSP/Sci_Visualization/VectorField ) , I got a different result, which I have attached.
It might be that the online graphing software doesn't handle zero vectors correctly.
 
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iamnotageek said:
Hi,

I have a doubt in plotting the vector field.

In the post https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=155579 it is mentioned that a vector field could be plotted for F (x,y) by, marking the (x,y) as the tail and F(x,y) as the head portion.
No, that's not what I said. I said:
Choose some point (x,y), Caculate the vector F(x,y)= -yi+ xi, draw that vector starting at (x,y) (with its "tail" at (x,y)).

If so, then consider the function, F(x,y)=(x,y)

The, if the input is (2,4) then output is (2,4)
You are confusing points and vectors. If you use (x, y) to mean both the point (x,y) and the vector from point (0,0) to (x,y) then you are going to be confused! Since you learned to use (x, y) to mean a point way back in "pre-Calculus", it is better to use either <x, y> or xi+ yj to denote the vector. Then F(x, y)= <x, y> or, better, F(x, y)= xi+ yj. F(2, 4)= 2i+ 4j. With its "tail" at (2, 4), its head would be at (2+2, 4+ 4)= (4, 8).

Then, if it plotted, there will be only points everywhere right? Because, the head and the tail portion is marked at the same point.

But, when I tried the same using a online plotter (http://cose.math.bas.bg/webMathematica/MSP/Sci_Visualization/VectorField ) , I got a different result, which I have attached.
 
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