Doubts regarding solubility product problem

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The discussion centers around a chemistry problem involving the mixing of two solutions and the calculation of concentrations. Participants clarify that the specific volume of each solution does not need to be defined as long as equal volumes are used, as this allows for the simplification of calculations. When mixing equal volumes, the volume cancels out in the concentration formula, making it unnecessary to assume a specific volume like 1 liter. The focus is on understanding that the key aspect is maintaining equal volumes, which simplifies the dilution calculations. Additionally, while the problem provides concentrations in molarity (M), the need to consider volume arises when calculating the final concentration after mixing. The conversation emphasizes that the dilution process involves determining the number of moles of solute and dividing by the total volume of the solution, reinforcing that shortcuts can be used for efficiency but understanding the underlying principles is crucial.
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As I am also attaching solution along with the problem there is no point in posting this thread in homework forums .
In the following question (solution is also there) https://s29.postimg.org/omlnt73lz/IMG_20170407_090748.jpg https://s18.postimg.org/hsuxm5uvt/IMG_20170407_090805.jpg why are we taking volume= 2 ? I know it's a mixture of two solutions of equal volumes but it's no where mentioned in the question that volume of each solution is 1 litre .
Another query regarding the Same problem is that why are we even bothered about the volume?we are directly given the concentrations of Ag and Cl (in the options. just look at the units , it's M that means molarity which is unit of concentration.) If it would have been number of moles then we would have required to divide it by volume to get concentration. Please Clear my doubts.
 
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1. It doesn't matter what the volume is - as long as you mix two equal volumes when trying to calculate concentration after the dilution you will get something like \frac V {V+V} where the V cancels out leaving you with \frac 1 2. As V cancels out, we can safely ignore it.

2. They never assumed the volume to be 1 L, they just halved the concentration for the reason explained above.

3. But then, actually there is nothing wrong with assuming volume of 1L (or any other). All that is important is that you assume equal volumes and 1L is much easier to use in further calculations than - say - 2.7641 gallons.
 
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Borek said:
1. It doesn't matter what the volume is - as long as you mix two equal volumes when trying to calculate concentration after the dilution you will get something like VV+VVV+V\frac V {V+V} where the V cancels out leaving you with 1212\frac 1 2. As V cancels out, we can safely ignore it.
If there will be mixture of three solutions of equal volume we will divide it by 3, right?

gracy said:
Another query regarding the Same problem is that why are we even bothered about the volume?we are directly given the concentrations of Ag and Cl (in the options. just look at the units , it's M that means molarity which is unit of concentration.) If it would have been number of moles then we would have required to divide it by volume to get concentration. Please Clear my doubts.
Please try to answer this as well.
 
gracy said:
If there will be mixture of three solutions of equal volume we will divide it by 3, right?

Try to derive it.

Please try to answer this as well.

I don't understand where the problem is. Yes, we are given concentrations, but we have to calculate dilution. And calculating dilution is nothing else but calculating how much substance is put into the final solution (number of moles) and then dividing by the final volume. Yes, to speed up things we often do tricks (like here - dividing by two), but this is just a shortcut to the full calculation.
 
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