Dover style book on control systems?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the search for quality books on control systems, particularly those published by Dover, as well as opinions on the quality of various engineering textbooks. Participants express preferences for books that prioritize theoretical depth over superficial exercises and illustrations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Debate/contested, Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • One participant appreciates Dover books for their clarity in subjects like topology and ODEs but criticizes many engineering texts for being superficial.
  • Another participant notes that while some Dover books are excellent, they can be outdated, which may limit their applicability for cutting-edge topics.
  • Suggestions for control systems literature include Stengel's "Optimal Control and Estimation" and Anderson's "Optimal Filtering," which are considered valuable for basic theory.
  • A participant inquires about the quality of "Feedback Control Theory" by John Comstock Doyle, noting mixed reviews on Amazon.
  • Another participant mentions a free online feedback control text from Caltech, suggesting it as an alternative resource.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the quality and relevance of Dover books and other engineering texts. There is no consensus on the best resources for control systems, and the discussion remains open-ended regarding the evaluation of specific titles.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the age of Dover books as a limitation, suggesting that their applicability may depend on the specific needs of the reader, such as whether they are seeking foundational theory or contemporary advancements.

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Been reading some Dover books (topology, ODE:s, complex variables) and I think they've been just brilliant so far. I'd like more books in the same vein on other subjects. Most engineering books are absolutely awful in my opinion (books in the style of Merriam/Kraige mechanics - utterly hand-wavy, almost demeaning theory wise, thick and heavy with focus on braindead exercises and pretty pictures) so I was wondering if there was any equivalent publisher there. A book on control systems would be extra nice to find, but other areas aswell.
 
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Some of the Dover books are excellent, others not so. One common problem is that they are *old*. That's why they're cheap. If you want cutting edge stuff, don't bother with Dover books. On the other hand, if you want basic theory, those Dover books can be quite good. With regard to control systems, Stengel's Optimal Control and Estimation and Anderson's Optimal Filtering are worth a look, and very worth the price.
 
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Thanks DH! I'm still an undergrad so I don't mind them not being cutting edge. Any opinion on Feedback Control Theory (Dover Books on Engineering) by John Comstock Doyle?
 
I don't have that one. It received three good reviews on amazon, but also one very bad review. Four reviews is not enough to make any kind of judgment. The table of contents and intro are viewable on amazon. From that, it appears to me that this book only covers SISO problems and barely touches upon filtering in the time domain.
 

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