Drag Force: Mass & Why It Doesn't Affect Object

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The discussion clarifies that drag force does not depend on the mass of an object but rather on its shape, cross-sectional area, and the density of the air. The drag equation, which is an empirical relationship, incorporates dynamic pressure and the drag coefficient, but does not account for the object's mass. Factors such as viscosity, Mach number, and the laminar-turbulent state of the boundary layer also influence drag, yet the mass of the object remains irrelevant in these calculations.

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Why drag force doesn't Depend on the mass of the Object?
 
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Well, what does drag force depend on?
 
if the drag force is the reaction force on the elastic collision between air molecules and the object , so it have to depend on the momentum of the air molecules and object momentum, is that right?
 
Drag force (and all aerodynamic forces) are the forces caused by the air flowing around an object. Only the shape of the object matters. It doesn't matter if the object is hollow or filled with lead.
 
okay ,but if you see it as a collision and the air molecule mass is constant and its initial velocity is also constant, and the object velocity is also constant but its mass is changing so the reaction force will change , so drag force must depend mass.
 
The drag equation suggests it's the object's density, cross-sectional area, and shape that affects the force acting on it by the air.
 
A Lazy Shisno said:
The drag equation suggests it's the object's density, cross-sectional area, and shape that affects the force acting on it by the air.
That's the air density, not the object's density.
 
FactChecker said:
That's the air density, not the object's density.
Sorry, yes, you're right. I'm not sure how I forgot that.
 
A Lazy Shisno said:
The drag equation suggests it's the object's density, cross-sectional area, and shape that affects the force acting on it by the air.

The "drag equation" also is not based upon first principles and does not capture all of the relevant physics contributing to drag. It's just an empirical relationship between the drag force, area, and the dynamic pressure (##\rho V^2/2##). The drag coefficient relates those quantities across a wide range of conditions, but tells you nothing about what actually contributes to the drag. Viscosity, ratio of specific heats, and Mach number can also all play a role, for example. So can the laminar-turbulent state of the boundary layer, the surface quality, and in extremely high-speed flows, chemical reactions.

The important thing is that in none of those cases does the mass (or density) of the object play a role.
 
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