Driven RLC circiut in parallel

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The discussion revolves around setting up the differential equations for a driven RLC circuit configured in parallel, with a voltage source described by V_0cos(wt). Participants are exploring the relationships between voltage, charge, and current in this circuit configuration.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to establish the governing equations for the circuit, questioning how to combine the equations for charge and current into a single differential equation. There is also a discussion on the similarities and differences between parallel and series configurations, particularly regarding voltage and charge relationships.

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Some participants have provided insights into the relationships between the components, noting that while voltage is the same across all elements in parallel, the currents differ. There is ongoing exploration of how to formulate the equations correctly, but no consensus has been reached on the final form of the differential equation.

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Participants are working under the assumption that the voltage drop across all components is equal and are trying to reconcile this with the differing currents in the parallel configuration. There is also mention of the implications of removing the voltage source and how it affects the circuit dynamics.

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I need some help setting up the DE for this system. I have a voltage source pumping at [tex]V_0cos(wt)[/tex]

Connected to a capacitor, inductor and resistor all three in parrellel. I am guessing then, that the voltage drop among all the parts are equal.

[tex] V_0 cos(wt) = \frac{Q}{C} = L \ddot{Q} = \dot{Q} R[/tex]

Then, The total charge on all parts would be equal to the sum of charges, right?

[tex] Q_{Total} = \\Q_C + Q_L +Q_R[/tex]

But what is the Q total? I have these two equations, but I am having a hard time understanding how to combine them into one single DE that I can solve.
 
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silverdiesel said:
I need some help setting up the DE for this system. I have a voltage source pumping at [tex]V_0cos(wt)[/tex]

Connected to a capacitor, inductor and resistor all three in parrellel. I am guessing then, that the voltage drop among all the parts are equal.

[tex] V_0 cos(wt) = \frac{Q}{C} = L \ddot{Q} = \dot{Q} R[/tex]

Then, The total charge on all parts would be equal to the sum of charges, right?

[tex] Q_{Total} = \\Q_C + Q_L +Q_R[/tex]

But what is the Q total? I have these two equations, but I am having a hard time understanding how to combine them into one single DE that I can solve.
If you just give it a one time zap and remove the voltage, you will have:

[tex]L\frac{dI}{dt} + \frac{Q}{C} = IR[/tex] or

[tex]L\frac{dI}{dt} + \frac{Q}{C} - IR = 0[/tex]

This is because the current through the resistor has to come from the emf produced by the capacitor and the inductor.

Now take the same circuit and apply a forcing voltage.

[tex]L\frac{dI_L}{dt} + \frac{Q_c}{C} + V_0\cos\omega t = IR[/tex] or

[tex]IR - (L\frac{dI_L}{dt} + \frac{Q_c}{C}) = V_0\cos\omega t[/tex]

Of course: [tex]I_L = \dot{Q} \text{ and } \frac{dI_L}{dt} = \ddot{Q_L}[/tex]

and [itex]I_L + I_C = I[/itex]

AM
 
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okay, I appreciate the help. It seems that this is the same as setting up the circuit in series. (V1+V2+V3=V, Q1=Q2=Q3=Q) Is there no difference when setting up the circuit in parallel? I was thinking V1=V2=V3=V, and Q1+Q2+Q3=Q.
 
silverdiesel said:
okay, I appreciate the help. It seems that this is the same as setting up the circuit in series. (V1+V2+V3=V, Q1=Q2=Q3=Q) Is there no difference when setting up the circuit in parallel? I was thinking V1=V2=V3=V, and Q1+Q2+Q3=Q.
The difference is that the currents are not the same. [itex]I_L, I_C \text{ and } I_R[/itex] will be different. They are necessarily the same when in series.

AM
 
Since all elements are in parallel they have the same voltage drop.
You have three currents:
[tex]i_R(t) = \frac{V_s(t)}{R}[/tex]
[tex]i_C(t) = C\frac{dV_s(t)}{dt}[/tex]
[tex]i_L(t) = i_L(0) + \frac{1}{L}\int_{0}^{t}V_s(\tau)d\tau[/tex]
Where [tex]V_s(t) = V_0 cos(\omega t)[/tex]
 

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