Drooped down wingtip or the drooped up wingtip better for an RC plane?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the comparative advantages of drooped down versus drooped up wingtips for RC planes. Participants explore design considerations, stability, maneuverability, and practical implications for aircraft operations.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that drooped down wingtips enhance performance, while others note that commercial airliners predominantly use drooped up wingtips.
  • One participant mentions that drooped down wingtips correspond to an anhedral configuration, which may increase maneuverability, contrasting with the dihedral configuration of drooped up wingtips that enhances roll stability.
  • There is a discussion about the appropriate size and angle for wingtips, with a participant questioning if an angle of approximately 120 degrees to the wing surface is suitable.
  • Another participant highlights that a drooped down winglet could affect landing performance by contacting the runway at a lower angle of bank, potentially impacting crosswind landing limits.
  • Some participants refer to the terminology of "winglets" and "wingtip fences" in relation to the discussed configurations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the effectiveness of drooped down versus drooped up wingtips, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without a clear consensus.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions regarding the specific design parameters for wingtips, including size and angle, and the implications of these configurations on aircraft performance.

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Hi,

Can someone pls help me out in telling me whether the drooped down wingtip or the drooped up wingtip is better for an RC plane? I have read that the drooped down wingtip is better but none of the planes in production(commercial airliners) use it. They use the drooped up wingtip! Also, is an angle of approx. 120 degrees to the wing surface alright for the positioning of a new wingtip?
 
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Hi,

If I need to design a wingtip for an exisitng wing then what size must the wingtip be relative to the wing. If someone can help out by providing links or any info, I will really appreciate it!
 


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What you call a drooping down is known as dihedral configuration, it enhances roll stability. It is so in almost all of the commercial planes. Drooping down is the anhedral configuration, & it gives more maneuverability, hence observed in few military & cargo planes.

You can easily prove the point by making a free body diagram of both configuration. In dihedral, lift(perpendicular to wing surface) produces a restoring moment while rolling. Try explaining to yourself why anhedral are high mounted wings(must have observed this on cargo planes)
 


Hi,

I think there seems to be some confusion.Pls take a look at this http://ojas.ucok.edu/96/T96/Jdavis.htm#Abs . I'm talking about the ends of the wings (wingtips). The second option in the link seems to be better than the third. However it is not used in any commercial airline.
 
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For a middle-school kid, that's a pretty good article, but generally what you describe are called "winglets".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winglets

Often (see the bottom of the article), if they go both above and below the wing, they are called a "wingtip fence".
 


sashankhrao said:
Hi,

Can someone pls help me out in telling me whether the drooped down wingtip or the drooped up wingtip is better for an RC plane? I have read that the drooped down wingtip is better but none of the planes in production(commercial airliners) use it. They use the drooped up wingtip! Also, is an angle of approx. 120 degrees to the wing surface alright for the positioning of a new wingtip?
A drooped down winglet (depending on size) will contact the runway at a noticably lower angle of bank than a turned up winglet. This will drastically lower the landing crosswind limit of the aircraft and will adversely affect airline operations.
 


russ_watters said:
For a middle-school kid, that's a pretty good article, but generally what you describe are called "winglets".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winglets

Often (see the bottom of the article), if they go both above and below the wing, they are called a "wingtip fence".

damn, go middle school kid. I think someone was helping him big time :smile:
 


grant9076 said:
A drooped down winglet (depending on size) will contact the runway at a noticably lower angle of bank than a turned up winglet. This will drastically lower the landing crosswind limit of the aircraft and will adversely affect airline operations.

Haah. DUHHH...! Good observation, never thought about that!
 

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