Duct Pressure Question: Troubleshooting Complicated Units and Conversions

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The discussion revolves around a duct pressure problem involving unit conversions and the interpretation of measurements from a vacuum gauge. Participants are navigating the complexities of converting between different units, specifically focusing on mass and force units, as well as area measurements.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are attempting to clarify the meaning of measurements from a vacuum gauge and are questioning the conversions between lbm and lbf, as well as ft² to in². There are discussions about the implications of these conversions on the problem at hand.

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Some participants have offered insights into unit conversions and the nature of vacuum gauges, while others have shared their own interpretations and calculations. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to the problem, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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There are indications of missing information regarding the specific values used in calculations and the assumptions made about the relationship between lbm and lbf on Earth. The discussion also highlights the challenges posed by the complexity of unit conversions in this context.

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A vacuum gage at the intake duct to a fan gives a reading of 6 in of water. The surrounding atmospheric pressure is ##14.5 lbf/in^2## Determine the absolute pressure inside the duct, in ##lbf/in^2.## The density of water is ##62.39lb/ft^3##, and acceleration of gravity is ##32.0 ft/s^2##.
Relevant Equations
$$p=p_{atm}+ \rho gL$$
These units complicate everything and I simply cannot get them to check out for the life of me. After making some conversions I got to this point:
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Ask yourself what a vacuum gauge measures.
Wrt units, how do you convert lbm to lbf? (You could have saved yourself some arithmetic.)
How do you convert ft2 to in2?
 
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haruspex said:
Ask yourself what a vacuum gauge measures.
Wrt units, how do you convert lbm to lbf? (You could have saved yourself some arithmetic.)
How do you convert ft2 to in2?
I ended up solving the problem by realizing 1 lbm= 1 lbf on Earth essentially and the density can be expressed in terms of ##lbf/ft^3##.
Thanks a lot.
 
cwill53 said:
I ended up solving the problem by realizing 1 lbm= 1 lbf on Earth essentially and the density can be expressed in terms of ##lbf/ft^3##.
Thanks a lot.
What answer did you get? You did not respond to my remark about what a vacuum gauge measures.
 
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The correct starting equation, in proper English units should be $$p=p_{atm}-\frac{\rho gL}{g_c}$$where $$g_c=32\ \frac{lb_m\ ft}{lb_f\ sec^2}$$So, $$p=p_{atm}-\frac{(62.4)(32)(0.5)}{32}\frac{1\ ft^2}{144\ in^2}=14.5-0.2=14.3\ psi$$
 
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haruspex said:
What answer did you get? You did not respond to my remark about what a vacuum gauge measures.
I got the answer of ##14.2834lbf/in^2##

A vacuum gauge measures pressures that are lower than atmospheric pressure.
 

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