Sticky card Application of Bernoulli / Pressure incorrect?

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The discussion revolves around the application of Bernoulli's principle in a sticky card experiment involving airflow and pressure differences. Participants explore how the presence of a hole affects the results and the underlying physics concepts at play.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the mechanics of airflow in relation to Bernoulli's equation and question how different methods of airflow (blowing vs. sucking) influence the card's behavior. They also raise inquiries about the role of the hole in the setup.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their experiences and hypotheses. Some guidance has been offered regarding the principles involved, but multiple interpretations of the experiment and its results are still being explored.

Contextual Notes

There is mention of a diagram that may help clarify the experimental setup, and assumptions about the airflow methods are being questioned. The original poster's teacher emphasized the importance of understanding the "Why" behind the problem, indicating a focus on conceptual understanding.

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Homework Statement
punch a hole with a nail through a plastic card, place a spool at the end of it and suck through it. What do you observe? Why does that happen?
Relevant Equations
Bernoulli's equation.
After doing what the instruction did, I noticed that the card stuck to the spool, and generated the hypothesis that it was the same effect as when putting two papers together and blowing through them, the lower pressure of the faster speed of the wind makes the higher pressure outside move the two papers together, but after trying the same experiment without punching a hole I got the same result, and my teacher insisted that the "Why" part of this problem used Bernoulli, so I have two questions I need help on:

How does Bernoulli's equation apply in this problem?
How does the hole affect the problem?
 
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Welcome, Fuux!

How did you blow without the orifice?
Could you post a diagram for both situations?

What the Bernoulli's principle states?
 
Thank you!

I think I was able to just inhale the air inside the spool and I think that was enough for the card to stick, but I guess I could have inhaled some air from some space between the spool and the card.
As for a diagram I was given the photo attached.

Bernoulli's principle states that pressure in a fluid goes down when its speed increases. I could imagine that His Molecular Kinetic Theory could perhaps indicate that lower amount of air particles on the spool when I inhale means less pressure exerted from these moving particles against the card, but I believe that's more of a chemistry answer and I can't see the relation with the formula my teacher talked about.
 

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Sorry, I have never seen this experiment done by sucking from the spool, but by blowing trough it and against the card.
That blowing creates a radial air flow between the spool and the card, depressing the static pressure on that interphase.

I can only guess that you could create the same effect by strongly sucking from the spool (leaving some gap between spool and card), except when the central hole is so big that more air goes through it than radially.

bernoulli-spool-diagram-2-300x283.png
 
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this was very useful anyway, Thank you!
 

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