Dummit and Foote vs Lang: Choosing the Best Abstract Algebra Book

  • Context: Algebra 
  • Thread starter Thread starter SrVishi
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    algebra lang
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the comparison of two abstract algebra textbooks: Lang's graduate version and Dummit and Foote. Participants explore which book may be more suitable for learning abstract algebra, considering factors such as depth, sophistication, and teaching style. The conversation also touches on the potential use of other texts, including Hungerford.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests that Lang is a more advanced text aimed at graduate students, while Dummit and Foote is seen as more accessible but potentially less sophisticated.
  • Another participant argues that Hungerford serves as a bridge between the two, providing a more basic introduction compared to Lang, which is viewed as a reference for more advanced study.
  • There is a suggestion that both Lang and Hungerford should be used together to benefit from Lang's perspective and topics alongside Hungerford's examples.
  • One participant expresses a preference for Lang, indicating they enjoy the challenge of solving theorems independently before consulting proofs.
  • Concerns are raised about Dummit and Foote being verbose, which some feel may obscure rather than clarify the material.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the suitability and effectiveness of each textbook, indicating that there is no consensus on which book is definitively better for learning abstract algebra.

Contextual Notes

Participants' views are influenced by their personal experiences with the texts, and there are references to the evolving perceptions of the books' difficulty and appropriateness for different levels of students.

SrVishi
Messages
75
Reaction score
15
Hi, I'm going to start learning Abstract Algebra, and I was wondering which book, either Lang (his graduate version) or Dummit and Foote, is better. I'm totally okay with terseness to any degree so that isn't an issue for me. Now, I know that Lang is a hardcore graduate book (at least according to what I heard), but I can take my time with it and probably look up whatever I don't understand online. So, which of the two would be "better?" Which covers more material? Are there any books that you feel are better or covers more material then these two? Thanks in advance for any response.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Anyone?
 
Have a look at this thread, Mathwonk has given a very similar looking answer.

mathwonk said:
...
So Hungerford is more of a textbook for basic stuff and Lang more of a baby research reference. One tries to address the beginning grad student on his level, and the other tries to raise that level to nearer what it needs to be.
...
Trying to give the proofs of any theorem without reading the proof first, is a habit every student should acquire, in every book, and even every paper. That's how you learn to be a mathematician as opposed to remaining a student. So Lang is teaching you as if you want to become a mathematician, and Hungerford is teaching you as if you are a beginning student.
...
I would put DF noticeably below Hungerford in sophistication and depth. I.e. what used to be considered a basic book for average grad students, namely Hungerford, has now become considered a more difficult book, replaced for average students by DF. Lang on the other hand is almost never considered as a text anymore, as if it were some otherworldly and unrealistic book. I think, recalling using them both now, that one needs both Lang and Hungerford. Lang has the right point of view, and the right topics, and Hungerford has the examples that flesh out the basic topics. I thought DF looked appealing at first review, but now actually using it, I find it so verbose as to obscure the topics rather than illuminate them.
 
Thanks for the reply. I already try to solve every theorem in a book before checking with the proof (well, to the best of my ability at least), it just makes the reading a lot more fun! I guess I'll go with Lang then, perhaps with Bergman's companion to Lang notes online.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
5K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
9K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
11K
  • · Replies 38 ·
2
Replies
38
Views
12K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
5K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
6K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
6K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
3K