Dv/dt = (v+1)/10v^2 Euler's method

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The discussion revolves around applying Euler's method to solve the differential equation dv/dt = (v+1)/10v^2, with initial conditions v(0) = 1 and a step size of 0.5, to find v(4). Participants are sharing their calculations and results while seeking confirmation and assistance.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants are discussing their individual results for v(4) and comparing values obtained through different methods, including spreadsheets. Questions arise regarding the correctness of step sizes and calculations at specific time points.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exchange of results and verification of calculations among participants. Some have confirmed matching results for certain time points, while discrepancies in other values have been noted. Participants are actively engaging in checking each other's work and clarifying their approaches.

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Participants mention potential calculator mistakes and the importance of confirming results, indicating a focus on accuracy in numerical methods. There is also a reference to a separate problem involving a different differential equation, which introduces additional calculations and step sizes.

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Homework Statement


dv/dt = (v+1)/10v^2 Euler method delta t = .5, t =0 and v = 1, to find v(4)



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I'm using v = v(old) + (stepsize)(dv/dt) I'm just wondering if anyone can confirm my results. My teacher said that although this seems easy over half the homework will be wrong because of calculator mistakes.

The Attempt at a Solution



I know it is boring but could someone double check me? Maybe put it in wolfram Idk exactly how to do it.THanks Or maybe someone has a program.


For my final calculation I got v(4) = 1.731618162


Man I hope that is OK
 
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I got v(4) = 1.5740 using a spreadsheet. Just to make sure, it's ##\frac{dv}{dt} = \frac{v+1}{10v^2}## and v(0)=1, right?
 
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Use Euler's method with ##\frac{dv}{dt} = \frac{v+1}{10v^2}## and delta t = 0.5, starting at t =0 and v = 1, to find v(4).
So yeah. But did you use the right step size.I will give you a couple values I want to see if I was doing it right but went wrong.

So for t = 1.0 I have v = 1.18677686
t = 2.0 I have v = 1.406046194
t = 3.0 I have v = 1.524220178
Do any of those look OK?
Thanks
 
Your result for t=1.0 matches mine, but the others don't.
 
Figures.
So dv/dt for 1.0 I have .1552624125 is that what you got?
 
Yes.
 
Dude I GOT IT! Whohoo. Thanks. It is so funny that something that seems very simple ends up being clustered for me.

If you did it on a spread sheet and it was easy can you punch in another one for me? This is the last one I had from my hw.
If not and it is a drag to do that's OK.

But here it is just in case.

y' = xy -x^2 and y(0) = 1 they want y(1).

I got 3.08106496
 
What step size?

With a step size of 0.1, I get about 1.217, and the actual value is about 1.238. It looks like your number is a bit off.
 
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Step size is 0.2
Sorry I left that out.
 
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With a step size of 0.2, I get y(1)=1.195.
 
  • #11
I get that but for when x = .8

Yours started at 0? Y(0) = 1?
 
  • #12
So my y(1) = 1.233930342
 
  • #13
Jbreezy said:
I get that but for when x = .8
Apparently you are updating the independent variable (x) before you are updating the dependent variable (y). Don't do that. The derivative function is f(x,y), not f(x+Δx,y).
 
  • #14
Got it thx.
 

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