Dynamic Soaring: Reaching 392mph with Radio Control Gliders

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The discussion focuses on dynamic soaring, particularly its application in achieving high speeds with radio control gliders. Participants explore the mechanics of dynamic soaring, recent speed records, and potential applications for unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) utilizing this technique.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants describe dynamic soaring as a method that exploits differing wind flows across a wind shear boundary to achieve high speeds, with recent records reaching 392 mph and claims of 468 mph.
  • One participant presents a NASA project investigating a dynamic soaring UAV designed for long endurance missions, highlighting its potential for oceanic surveillance and its design based on the albatross.
  • Another participant notes the challenges of human reaction time in high-speed gliding and suggests the possibility of transitioning to computer-controlled steering systems guided by GPS.
  • Participants share links to videos demonstrating the high-speed dynamic soaring records, with discussions on the visibility of the gliders in these recordings.
  • One participant mentions creating an animation to explain the mechanics of dynamic soaring, focusing on the gain in groundspeed rather than airspeed.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying claims regarding the speed records achieved through dynamic soaring, with no consensus on the exact figures or the implications of these speeds. The discussion includes both technical explanations and speculative ideas about future applications and technologies.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about speed records and the mechanics of dynamic soaring depend on specific definitions and assumptions about measurement techniques, which are not fully resolved in the discussion.

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Dynamic Soaring takes advantage of differeing wind flows separated by a thin wind shear boundary. Recently the record for radio control glider reached 392 mph (peak speed is over 400mph, but the convention is to measure the uphill return speed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaQB16ZaNI4&fmt=18
 
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rcgldr said:
Dynamic Soaring takes advantage of differeing wind flows separated by a thin wind shear boundary. Recently the record for radio control glider reached 392 mph (peak speed is over 400mph, but the convention is to measure the uphill return speed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaQB16ZaNI4&fmt=18

The current record is 468mph. I made an animation that explains the mechanism in simple terms, by analogy to an elastic collision:

 
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Here is a NASA project based on dynamic soaring:



This concept investigate the feasibility of a dynamic soaring (DS) UAV that will have an endurance on the order of months. This capability is enabling for numerous civil missions from ocean and atmospheric science to fishery surveillance and monitoring. Many of these missions are simply not feasible do to the cost of operating a fueled aircraft with limited endurance. An aircraft such as this could be built in the thousands. They would distribute themselves over the oceans of the planet providing a robust surveillance network that has persistence which is only limited by the reliability of the hardware. This aircraft is based on the Albatross which in habitats the southern oceans by Antarctica. The typical Albatross weighs about 25 lbs. They have an aspect ratio 16 wing with an 11 foot span. They are estimated to have an L/D of 27. Since there are few static soaring opportunities over the ocean, the Albatross uses a technique called Dynamic Soaring (DS) to maintain flight. Dynamic soaring is a figure eight-like flight maneuver that takes advantage of horizontal wind gradients to maintain flight speed and altitude. The albatross can travel over 1000 km per day without ever flapping their wings through the constant use of such maneuvers, while able to tack any direction with independence of wind direction The Albatross is also able to lock their shoulder joint to rest their muscles and even capable of sleeping while performing the DS flight maneuvers. This UAV Concept has the same weight and size of the Albatross and would be propelled by the wind alone utilizing this same DS technique. Tip turbines on the wing tips extract power from the tip vortex to power the payload and recharge the batteries. When the wind dies the aircraft has the ability to safely land on the surface of the ocean. Solar cells will be used to keep the payload and other electronics running. The tip turbines can also be used as propellers to provide takeoff thrust and at other times to provide auxiliary propulsion to allow the aircraft to maneuver away from an obstacle.
 
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rcgldr said:
Link to the 468 mph dynamic soaring video. It's hard to see the glider in the record run, but a second pilot does a 405 mph run where you can see the model a bit better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfoxjNg-eg0&hd=1

Yeah, these guys have reached a level where you need high-speed cameras. I wonder if at some point they will reach the barrier of human reaction time, and replace the manual steering with computer control, guided by GPS or some local transmitters.

I made a new version of the animation.


Most explanations I saw concentrate on the gain in airspeed when you pierce the boundary layer. My main aim was to show where the gain in groundspeed happens, because that's what gets measured by the radar gun.
 
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