E-Field Through Copper Wire given drift velocity

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The discussion centers on calculating the electric field in a copper wire given the drift velocity of free electrons at 7.84×10-4 m/s and the resistivity of copper at 1.7×10-8 Ωm. The participant derived the electric field using the relationship between drift velocity, charge, and electron density, ultimately finding E = 0.18 V/m. The calculation required determining the electron density (n) from the density of copper, which was not provided in the homework materials. The conversation highlights the necessity of external resources for certain parameters in physics problems.

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  • Understanding of drift velocity and its formula: vd = (qEτ)/me
  • Familiarity with resistivity and conductivity relationships: ρ = 1/σ
  • Knowledge of current density and its equations: J = (1/ρ) E and J = n e vd
  • Basic conversion techniques for density to electron density calculations
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Homework Statement


If the magnitude of the drift velocity of free electrons in a copper wire is 7.84×10-4 m/s, what is the electric field in the conductor? (Also gives chart that states that the resistivity of Cu is 1.7×10-8 Ωm)

Homework Equations


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vd=(qEτ)/me (where τ is avg. time between collisions)

ρ=1/σ=me/(nq2τ)

The Attempt at a Solution



first I solved for τ in the second equation:
τ=me/(nq2ρ)

Then I put this value in for τ in the first equation:
vd=(qE(me/(nq2ρ))/me
Simplify:
vd=E/(qnp)

When I put in values:
7.84×10-4=E/(1.6×10-19)(1.7×10-8)(n)
I didn't know how to get n (number of e- per m3), so I googled the density of copper (8.96 g/ml) and did some conversions to get n=8.475×1028, which gave me a correct answer of E=.18V/m, but I don't think I was supposed to use google, and no density chart is given in the book. Is there another way to do this that I overlooked?
 
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stephen8686 said:
Is there another way to do this that I overlooked?

There is a more direct way that does not involve τ. The current density is related to the electric field by J = (1/ρ) E and to the drift velocity by J = n e vd. You still need n which you cannot get from what is given unless you look things up.
 
kuruman said:
There is a more direct way that does not involve τ. The current density is related to the electric field by J = (1/ρ) E and to the drift velocity by J = n e vd. You still need n which you cannot get from what is given unless you look things up.

Thanks kuruman. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing anything important.
 

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