E(X^r) from Weibull Distribution is equal to Gamma Fn

  • Thread starter Thread starter Nick Jarvis
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Distribution Gamma
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around the expectation of a random variable raised to a power, specifically E(X^r), using the Weibull distribution. The original poster presents a probability density function and seeks to demonstrate a relationship involving the Gamma function.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use substitution in integration, questioning if their approach is valid. They express uncertainty about the relationship between variables and seek clarification on their integration method.

Discussion Status

Participants are providing feedback on the original poster's approach, clarifying notation and confirming the intended equation to prove. There is an ongoing exploration of the integration technique and the validity of the assumptions made.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of previous posts being removed for not following guidelines, and the original poster is navigating formatting issues related to the forum's input system.

Nick Jarvis
Messages
29
Reaction score
2

Homework Statement



I have f(x) = BxB-1e-x^B

I need to show that E(Xr) = Ƭ(Gamma)(R/B + 1)

Homework Equations


I know that E(Xr) = f(x)


The Attempt at a Solution



Attempt at part of solution

I started by saying let u = xB so du = BxB-1dx

Can I say then that if u = xB, then Xr = ur/B

That’s my first question. If I am on the right lines I will integrate. I think I have asked this before, but it got removed as I hadn’t followed the guidelines. Hoping that is set out properly. I am integrating by substitution. Assuming this is possible and I don’t HAVE to integrate by parts.Many thanks
[/B]
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Nick Jarvis said:

Homework Statement



I have f(x) = BxB-1e-x^B

I need to show that E(Xr) = Ƭ(Gamma)(R/B + 1)

Homework Equations


I know that E(Xr) = f(x)


The Attempt at a Solution



Attempt at part of solution

I started by saying let u = xB so du = BxB-1dx

Can I say then that if u = xB, then Xr = ur/B

That’s my first question. If I am on the right lines I will integrate. I think I have asked this before, but it got removed as I hadn’t followed the guidelines. Hoping that is set out properly. I am integrating by substitution. Assuming this is possible and I don’t HAVE to integrate by parts.Many thanks[/B]
(1) Please refrain from putting all of your message in a bold font; it looks like you are yelling at us.
(2) When writing you must distinguish clearly between ##u = xB## and ##u = x^B##.
(3) And, yes, of course, if ##u = x^B## then ##x^r = u^{B/r}## for any ##x > 0##. How could it be otherwise?
(4) I hope you were are being asked to prove that
$$ E X^r = \Gamma \left( \frac{r}{B}+1 \right) \; ?$$
rather than
$$ E X^r = \Gamma \left( \frac{r}{B+1} \right) \: ?$$
because the second one of these is false.
 
Last edited:
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: Nick Jarvis
Thanks. I copied and pasted from Word and assume the bold was inherited from the the 3 titles in the template. Apologies for that.

I cannot work out to insert nice equations like the two that you have inserted above. And yes, I need to prove that:

E(Xr)=Γ((r/B)+1) - your first equation

When I ask 'Can I say then that if u = xB, then Xr = ur/B' I meant is this the correct way of starting to solve it? Or am I on a hiding to nothing?

Many thanks
 
Nick Jarvis said:
Thanks. I copied and pasted from Word and assume the bold was inherited from the the 3 titles in the template. Apologies for that.

I cannot work out to insert nice equations like the two that you have inserted above. And yes, I need to prove that:

E(Xr)=Γ((r/B)+1) - your first equation

When I ask 'Can I say then that if u = xB, then Xr = ur/B' I meant is this the correct way of starting to solve it? Or am I on a hiding to nothing?

Many thanks

You can get rid of the bold font, just by making sure your input occurs after the "[/B]" delimiter. In this forum, "[B ]" turns on bold and "[/B ]" turns it off. (Note: I inserted extra space after the "B" and before the "]" to prevent the processor from actually switching to bold, but there should be no space between them.)

To insert "nice" equations, just use LaTeX; a stripped-down version of it comes loaded into this Forum. For an in-line equation, use # # d = a + b c^2 \int_0^1 x^3 dx # # (with no space between the two #'s at the start and at the end); that produces ##d = a + b c^2 \int_0^1 x^3 \, dx##. For a "dsplayed" equation (on its own, separate line) use two $ signs (with no space between them) at the start and at the end. That gives
$$d = a + b c^2 \int_0^1 x^3 \, dx$$
If you search in this Forum for a "LaTeX tutorial", I am sure you will find one. To see the actual typed commands for a LaTeX expression, just right-click on the expression or equation and ask for a display math as tex.

As to your question: the fall-back position is to always try it yourself, to see what you get. If it works, you are done; if it fails, you need to try something else. But, try it first.
 
Last edited:

Similar threads

Replies
3
Views
1K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
13K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
6K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
10K