Earth rotation and long flights

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The discussion centers on the impact of Earth's rotation and atmospheric winds on flight times from London to New Zealand. It is established that while the Earth rotates counterclockwise, the primary factor influencing flight speed is the jet stream, which flows west to east at speeds of 100-200 mph. Flying eastwards against the rotation is generally quicker due to these winds. Additionally, the atmospheric conditions, including altitude and weather phenomena, play a significant role in determining flight efficiency.

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I have this question related to the rotation of the earth:

Lets say I am in London and I have to fly to New Zealand (non-stop). I can fly to the east and also to the west to get to the destination. If the distances of the two directions are equal, so which route should I choose?
 
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Well, the Earth rotates counterclockwise looking down from the north pole, which is equivalent to an east to west rotation. It would be quickest to fly against the rotation and therefore you should fly eastwards.
 
Well the reason it is quickest isn't exactly because of the rotation, it's the winds. The jet stream goes west to east at 100-200mph, which makes a big difference flying across the US. For London to New Zeland, the winds are probably kinda complex since you are crossing the equator.
 
russ_watters said:
Well the reason it is quickest isn't exactly because of the rotation, it's the winds. The jet stream goes west to east at 100-200mph, which makes a big difference flying across the US. For London to New Zeland, the winds are probably kinda complex since you are crossing the equator.

So it is only the winds that may change the plane's speed, isn't it
 
Also the altitude and what that wind has in it. [eg. Rain, snow, fog etc.]
 
pixel01 said:
So it is only the winds that may change the plane's speed, isn't it
Pretty much. The atmosphere is rotating with the Earth, so while you're in the atmosphere, wind direction has all the influence over your trip, because rotation of the ground and rotation o fthe air nearly match. If you were going via sub-orbital hop, Earth's rotation would have a lot more importance, though still less than you might think (because the ground from which you launched would be traveling at the rotational speed for that lattitude).
 
What would happen if we went above the atmosphere? Sorry, I just have to ask!
 
If your destination is at the same latitude, not much. You leave the ground traveling eastward at the same speed as the ground froom whch you launched (rotational velocity). Your target, being at the same latitude, has the same rotational velocity. You turn East or West, you get there in the same amount of time. But, if you're at 45N, and going further north, then you leave the ground already traveling East faster than your target, so by turning East you get there faster than if you turned West. OTOH, if you go South, your target is traveling East faster than you are, so you turn West to get there more quickly.
 

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