Easier to self-teach: differential geometry or complex analysis

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the comparative ease of self-learning complex analysis versus differential geometry, particularly in the context of their applicability to theoretical physics. Participants explore their experiences and opinions on the relevance and utility of both subjects.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Exploratory
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express uncertainty about the practical applications of complex analysis beyond contour integration, questioning its overall utility in physics.
  • Others argue that while complex analysis may be easier to self-learn due to its systematic nature, differential geometry is essential for understanding advanced physics concepts like general relativity.
  • A participant mentions that differential geometry appears challenging and suggests that a formal course may be beneficial for mastering it.
  • One participant finds complex analysis to be beautiful and natural, asserting its worthiness of study for its mathematical elegance.
  • Another participant claims that the complex number system is complete and does not require further generalization, although this assertion is met with confusion from others.
  • Some participants note that differential geometry is used extensively in physics, including in classical mechanics and general relativity, while complex analysis may have applications in quantum field theory.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express differing views on the ease of self-learning and the applicability of complex analysis versus differential geometry. There is no consensus on which subject is definitively easier or more useful.

Contextual Notes

Some participants acknowledge their limited exposure to differential geometry, which may affect their assessments. The discussion includes varying levels of familiarity with both subjects, leading to differing opinions on their complexity and relevance.

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Hi all,

I'm torn between taking complex analysis or differential geometry at the advanced third year level.

Which of these would you consider the easiest to self-learn or the least applicable to the study of theoretical physics?

I know that differential geometry shows up in general relativity but I'm not sure about relativistic quantum mechanics and other advanced theories.

Are there actually any serious uses of complex analysis other than contour integration?? It seems like complex analysis is all the hype but I've never actually seen it USED for anything other than this.

Thanks.
 
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I can't really defend complex analysis, as in my physics courses, I've also used it only (explicitly, at least) for contour integration. Anyway, though I have only tasted a little of differential geometry, I think it is hard enough that you will want to follow a course on it. Complex analysis on the other hand, is mainly about a systematic build-up and running through lots of proofs, which I think you can also do yourself.

Though you can probably better take a course instead of self-study, if you really want to thoroughly understand a subject, I tend to recommend doing differential geometry and self-learn complex analysis, which was easier in my opinion (though my exam grade shows it can still be trickier than you think :-p)
 
jdstokes said:
Hi all,

I'm torn between taking complex analysis or differential geometry at the advanced third year level.

Which of these would you consider the easiest to self-learn or the least applicable to the study of theoretical physics?

I know that differential geometry shows up in general relativity but I'm not sure about relativistic quantum mechanics and other advanced theories.

Are there actually any serious uses of complex analysis other than contour integration?? It seems like complex analysis is all the hype but I've never actually seen it USED for anything other than this.

Thanks.

I am just starting to sink complex analysis in. It is pretty amazing to extend the real numbers. I'd say its worth all the hype. It systematically extends our system but gives non trivial results. I wonder if the complex system is it or does it lie inside an even larger system?
 
I've taken classes in both courses, and to me complex analysis was a lot easier to learn than differential geometry. As to which will benefit you more, I would suggest that, whilst complex analysis may be useful later on, you will definitely need differential geometry. Therefore, I would advise you to take DG and self-learn complex analysis.
 
The system we have now, the complex one, has been proven by mathematicians to be "it" no need for more generalization
 
nealh149 said:
The system we have now, the complex one, has been proven by mathematicians to be "it" no need for more generalization

Huh? :confused:
 
^ me too...
 
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I think he means that the complex numbers are closed, unlike the sets within the complex numbers.
 
Hi,

I agree with the previous posters. My brief exposure to differential geometry was frightening, while I found complex analysis to be natural, fascinatingly beautiful and relatively easier. It is something everyone should learn simply to appreciate the beauty of pure mathematics. I think there are some applications of complex analysis in QFT, like the Feynman path integral formulation, but differential geometry is used more extensively throughout physics. Though GTR is the place it is traditionally used, I believe it is also be in the coordinate free formulation of classical mechanics based on calculus on manifolds. This is all second-hand knowledge though.

Molu
 

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