Easy Trig question that is ridiculously hard

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The picture speaks for itself, can anyone explain to me how to do this, they put it near the start of my book and i keep coming back to it yet no sine or cosine formulae etc... can help, please :)
 
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  • Triangle ABC with an inscribed circle touching all three sides, radii drawn to the points of tangency. Text beside it reads: find BC! radius of circle: 2cm, Angle B: 50°, Angle C: 50°.
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sponsoredwalk said:
The picture speaks for itself, can anyone explain to me how to do this, they put it near the start of my book and i keep coming back to it yet no sine or cosine formulae etc... can help, please :)

Start by drawing more lines on an accurate drawing. Draw a line from where the circle intersects the left line, down to where it intersects the middle of the BC line. Look at the triangle that is formed by that line and the angle B. You know B is 50 degrees, you know the two other angles are equal (to what?). Now look at the corresponding angles inside the circle for a triangle from the center of the circle out to those two points -- what are the angles in that circle? Now can you start filling in some of the distances needed?
 
(From the book:
In the isosceles triangle ABC, the equal angles at B and C are each 50'. The sides of the triangle each touch a circle of radius 2cm.
Calculate the length BC.
This question comes from chapter 3 and a barely newfound knowledge of sine (soh) and cosine (cah) is expected to explain this. The answer is 8.58cm although i really can't understand how it was accomplished.

I've attached an attempt in picture form, using this logic i continue and use the sine formula but get a wrong result for BC, idk what to do to get 8.58cm.
 
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  • Hand-drawn isosceles triangle ABC with apex A at top, a circle inscribed in it, and radii drawn to the tangent points. Labels show angle A as 80°, base angles B and C as 50°, the inner angle at the centre as 30°, and the marked radius as 2 cm, with red angles of 100° and 30° and blue angles of 60° and 1 marked on the segments.
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sponsoredwalk said:
(From the book:

This question comes from chapter 3 and a barely newfound knowledge of sine (soh) and cosine (cah) is expected to explain this. The answer is 8.58cm although i really can't understand how it was accomplished.

I've attached an attempt in picture form, using this logic i continue and use the sine formula but get a wrong result for BC, idk what to do to get 8.58cm.

The angles are labeled wrong. The angles of a triangle add up to 180 degrees. How can one angle be 50 degrees, and the other two angles be 100 degrees apiece?
 
Here is another approach. Call the center of the circle O. You know the 2 cm radius of the circle bisects BC. Call that intersection Z. Draw a line from O to C. You now have a triangle OZC. Can you can find the angle OCZ? You know OZ is 2 cm. From the defination of Tangent angle you can find ZC. Twice ZC is BC. It might be helpful to draw a line segment from O to the intersection of the circle and segment AC and indentify all the measures of the interior angles. The answer is indeed 8.58 cm.
 
Do you know that the intersection of the symmetric lines of the angles create the center of the circle?

I do not find this problem hard to solve.

Here is picture:

Triangle ABC with an inscribed circle centred at a point joined by lines to the vertices; angle A marked 40, angles at B and C marked 25 each, the radius r drawn in blue to the base, and base segments labelled BC/2.


just use tan and find BC/2.

Regards.
 
i should have tried it myself, taking tan25'=2/x but i had thought if it and said no to myself, well thanks a lot u've made my day lol :)