Economic analysis: replace machine now or later

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the economic analysis of whether to replace an old machine now or to wait until its depreciation period ends. Participants explore various financial calculations, including present value, net present value, and cash flow assessments, within the context of an engineering economics course.

Discussion Character

  • Homework-related
  • Mathematical reasoning
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose calculating the present value of both the old and new machines using depreciation and tax considerations, with initial findings suggesting the new machine has a higher present value.
  • Others argue for determining cash flows for both scenarios (immediate purchase vs. waiting) to assess net present value, highlighting the importance of operating costs and tax refunds on those costs.
  • One participant questions the accuracy of another's calculations, suggesting that cash flows need to be assessed over the entire lifespan of the machines, including potential salvage values.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of tax credits on operating costs and depreciation, with some expressing confusion about how these credits work in practice.
  • Participants express uncertainty regarding the future use of machines after the new machine's lifespan ends, raising questions about what equipment will be used in subsequent years.
  • Some participants clarify assumptions about the salvage value of the old machine and the depreciation of the new machine, indicating that these factors are critical to the analysis.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to the problem, with multiple competing views on how to calculate and interpret the financial implications of replacing the machine. Uncertainties remain regarding the treatment of operating expenses, salvage values, and future equipment needs.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include missing assumptions about the depreciation of the new machine, the treatment of salvage values, and the lack of clarity on future equipment usage beyond the new machine's lifespan.

  • #31
For scenario 2, then the sum would be

$$ \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac {350}{1.1^{n}} + \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac {-22,000}{1.1^{10n-1}} + \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac {7500}{1.1^{10n-1}} $$
 
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  • #32
Maylis said:
For scenario 2, then the sum would be

$$ \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac {350}{1.1^{n}} + \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac {-22,000}{1.1^{10n-1}} + \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac {7500}{1.1^{10n-1}} $$
Maylis said:
For scenario 2, then the sum would be

$$ \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac {350}{1.1^{n}} + \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac {-22,000}{1.1^{10n-1}} + \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac {7500}{1.1^{10n-1}} $$
My understanding is:
$$ \sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac {350}{1.1^{n}} + \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac {-22,000}{1.1^{10n}} +7500 $$
 
  • #33
I don't understand how you are picking your exponents for the interest rates in the sums. Why 10n, 10n-5??
 
  • #34
Maylis said:
What does that last term mean?
It means that you replace the old machine after 5 years, and then replace each new machine every subsequent 10 years.
 
  • #35
Maylis said:
I don't understand how you are picking your exponents for the interest rates in the sums. Why 10n, 10n-5??
In scenario 2, the 10n (starting with n = 0), means that you replace the machine immediately, and then every subsequent 10 years.

In scenarion 1, the 10n-5 (starting with n = 1) means that you replace the machine after 5 years, and then every subsequent 10 years.
 
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  • #36
Thanks, that is much more clearer now. Now I need to figure out how to actually calculate an infinite series :nb)
 
  • #37
Maylis said:
Thanks, that is much more clearer now. Now I need to figure out how to actually calculate an infinite series :nb)
a/(1-r)
 
  • #38
I found scenario 1 NPV to be -$21,953.7, and for scenario 2 it is -$24,804, so it is better to keep using the machine until it has finished its operating life.
 
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