EE needs help with optics

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The discussion revolves around the challenge of adding external lenses to a CCD video camera with a fixed lens to achieve a 4x magnification and focus at a distance of 3.5 meters. Participants explore various optical solutions, including telescope designs and teleconverter lenses, while addressing the technical aspects of lens placement and compatibility.

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  • One participant suggests looking into telescope designs with a magnification of 4x, indicating that two lenses with specific focal lengths could achieve this.
  • Another participant questions the proper distance from the fixed lens to the first telescope lens, emphasizing the importance of the field of view (FOV) angle and telescope diameter.
  • A suggestion is made to consider a teleconverter lens compatible with the existing CCD camera lens as a potential solution.
  • Participants express uncertainty about finding a suitable teleconverter lens and inquire about the specific make and model of the camera for better guidance.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to achieve the desired magnification and focus distance, with multiple suggestions and uncertainties remaining in the discussion.

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There are limitations regarding the specific requirements for lens compatibility and the technical details of telescope design that remain unresolved.

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I think this is a simple request but I’ve never been very good at optics and need help. I have a ccd video camera with a fixed lens. Images are in focus from about 20 cm to infinity. It has an angular fov of 60 degrees. Can someone explain how to add external lens(es) to magnify a plane image 4 times and focus at a distance of 3.5 meters? The magnified image can be inverted if necessary. Thanks!
 
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Since your desired image distance seems to be well within an acceptable range for the current camera design, you will want to look a telescope designs with a magnification of 4x. This may be as simple as two lenses with focal lengths f1 and f2. They are spaced apart by f1 + f2 and have a magnification of M=f1/f2=4. Of course it can get more complex, depending on what you care about. The web has tons of information about telescope design, find the stuff that makes sense to you and addresses your problem.
https://www.rocketmime.com/astronomy/Telescope/telescope_eqn.html
 
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Are you saying that I should simply put a telescope in front of the existing fixed lens? If so, what is the proper distance from the fixed lens to the first telescope lens? Thanks for your patience with my meager knowledge of this subject.
 
jtknep said:
Are you saying that I should simply put a telescope in front of the existing fixed lens? If so, what is the proper distance from the fixed lens to the first telescope lens? Thanks for your patience with my meager knowledge of this subject.
The short (approximate) answer is that depends on the FOV angle and the diameter of the telescope. You want to capture (or supply) all of the rays that the camera can see. But, as close as practical, to make the telescope design smaller and cheaper.
 
jtknep said:
Can someone explain how to add external lens(es) to magnify a plane image 4 times and focus at a distance of 3.5 meters?
Perhaps you can find a teleconverter lens that's compatible with your existing CCD camera lens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleconverter.
 
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renormalize said:
Perhaps you can find a teleconverter lens that's compatible with your existing CCD camera lens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleconverter.
Thanks for the advice. I haven’t been able to find one.
 
jtknep said:
Thanks for the advice. I haven’t been able to find one.
Can you post the make and model of your camera?
 
renormalize said:
Can you post the make and model of your camera?
The model of the camera module is OV2640. There are many suppliers but I can’t determine the actual mfr. Here’s a drawing:
IMG_0455.png
 
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