Eelipsoid and line intersection

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The discussion revolves around finding the intersection point of a line extending from the center of an ellipsoid to a point A located inside the ellipsoid. The ellipsoid is defined by its equation, and the coordinates of point A are given. Participants are exploring the relationship between the coordinates of point A, the parameters of the ellipsoid, and the coordinates of the intersection point P on the ellipsoid.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss expressing the line in parametric form and substituting these into the ellipsoid equation to find point P. There are questions about the validity of the ellipsoid equation in relation to the coordinates of A and P, and concerns about the distances between points not matching expected values.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the parametric representation of the line and the need for the parameters of the ellipsoid to accommodate the position of point A. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the chosen values for the ellipsoid's axes and their relationship to point A's coordinates.

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Participants are considering the constraints of the problem, including the requirement for point A to be inside the ellipsoid and the implications of the chosen values for the semi-major and semi-minor axes of the ellipsoid. There is also a discussion about the distances between points and how they relate to the geometry of the situation.

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Homework Statement

I have an ellipsoid with center (000). There is a point A inside the ellipsoid with known coordinates(1,2,3) I draw a line from center to point A and extend it to cut the ellipsoid on on point p(x,y,z).




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I want to find the coordinates of point P(x,y,z)


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The equation of ellipsoid for p is x^2/a^2+y^2/b^2+z^2/c^2=1
i have the values of a,b and c
i want to know if the ellipsoid equation is applicable to coordinates of A and coordinates of P

and how can i create equation using the coordinates of p with the coordinates of A
by equation of line method as both the points lie on a straight line with one end on (000) as the third point.
 
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Express the line through (0,0,0) and (1,2,3) in parametric form, i.e. x=t, y=2t, z=3t. Put that into the ellipsoid equation. Solve for t.
 
Thank you very much . I tried that method but the problem I am facing is say my point A (1,2,3) is inside the ellipsoid and center(000) and the point on the ellipsoid i solve using
x^2/a2+y^2/b2+Z^2/c^2=1 by substituting x=t,y=2t,z=3t and solving for t. But the distance between center and point (x,y,z) should be equal to the sum of the dist between center and A and A and point(x,y,z) . that is not matching .i am using the formula for dist between two pints say(x1,y1,z1) and (x2,y2,z2) as sqrt(x2-x1)^2+(y2-y1)^2+(z2-z1)^2.
can you tell me where i am going wrong
 
ppmko said:
Thank you very much . I tried that method but the problem I am facing is say my point A (1,2,3) is inside the ellipsoid and center(000) and the point on the ellipsoid i solve using
x^2/a2+y^2/b2+Z^2/c^2=1 by substituting x=t,y=2t,z=3t and solving for t. But the distance between center and point (x,y,z) should be equal to the sum of the dist between center and A and A and point(x,y,z) . that is not matching .i am using the formula for dist between two pints say(x1,y1,z1) and (x2,y2,z2) as sqrt(x2-x1)^2+(y2-y1)^2+(z2-z1)^2.
can you tell me where i am going wrong

What did you use for a, b and c, what did you get for t and hence for (x,y,z)? Of course you should find that the distance from O to A plus the distance from A to (x,y,z) should equal the distance from O to (x,y,z). But it's impossible to say what you are doing wrong until you tell us what you did.
 
Thank you for your responce.
I used a=1
b=2
c=3
for coordinates of A(1,2,3) and center(0,0,0)

now my equaation becomes for point p(x,y,z) on ellipsoid
x=0+(1-0)t=t
y=0+(2-0)t=2t
z=0+(3-0)t=3t

put in ellipsoid equation
t^2/1+4t^2/4+9t^2/9=1

3t^2=1
t=sqrt(1/3)=.57

x=.57
y=1.15
z=1.71


now pa=sqrt[(x-1)^2+(y-2)^2+(z-3)^2]=1.603
point A and center(000)=3.74
whereas my p to center is 3.30
i cannoot understand where i am going wrong
 
I don't think your distance from p to the center is right. But more importantly, if you choose a=1, b=2, and c=3 then your selected point A=(1,2,3) is OUTSIDE of the ellipsoid. I thought you were going to put it inside.
 
i need the point A to be inside . I guess I should have given the arbitraty values for the axis as a=3 b=2 and c=1 . I hope a,b,c are the semimajor axis,semiminor axis and the z axis repectively in the ellipsoid equation . and the coordinates of A(1,2,3) are separate.
the point on the ellipsoid will have x^2/a^2+y^2/b^2+z^2/3^3=1.where the x=t,y=2t,z=3t as the line touching the point on ellipsoid pwill pass through the center(000) and A(1,2,3) located inside the ellipsoid.
I tried that too but still it is not matching.
 
Sure, a, b and c are the axes of the ellipse. But if you want A(1,2,3) to be inside the ellipse, you need to make a, b and c larger than 1, 2 and 3.
 

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