Effect of Phase Lead Compensator on Phase and Gain margins

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Adding a Phase Lead Controller to a system generally increases both phase and gain margins, enhancing stability. The compensator introduces positive phase in the critical frequency region, which helps prevent instability by ensuring the phase does not approach critical values too closely. When the phase crosses zero before the gain, the system risks becoming unstable due to positive feedback. A sufficient phase margin is crucial for accommodating component tolerances, temperature variations, and other disturbances. Overall, the addition of a phase lead compensator improves system response and robustness.
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Homework Statement


What is the effect on the phase and gain margins of a system when a Phase Lead Controller/Compensator is added?

Homework Equations


I have designed the phase lead controller for the system so if anyone wants to see it, please ask

The Attempt at a Solution


I know, that in general, stability margins are increased, but I am unsure as to why.
 
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AnkleBreaker said:

Homework Statement


What is the effect on the phase and gain margins of a system when a Phase Lead Controller/Compensator is added?

Homework Equations


I have designed the phase lead controller for the system so if anyone wants to see it, please ask

The Attempt at a Solution


I know, that in general, stability margins are increased, but I am unsure as to why.

do you know what phase and gain margin are?
in words, not mathematically
 
donpacino said:
do you know what phase and gain margin are?
in words, not mathematically
to start, why don't you put up a bode plot of your system with and without the controller.

answer this for me. what happens when the phase crosses zero before the gain crosses zero?
 
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donpacino said:
do you know what phase and gain margin are?
in words, not mathematically
Gain Margin is the amount of gain that can be added to the system before the system becomes unstable
Phase Margin is the difference of the phase at the 0dB crossover frequency and -180

donpacino said:
to start, why don't you put up a bode plot of your system with and without the controller.
Original:
bode_original.jpg

Modified:
bode_modified.jpg


donpacino said:
answer this for me. what happens when the phase crosses zero before the gain crosses zero?
I'm not really sure of the answer to that question
 
those look like closed loop bode plots, can you show me the open loop plots?

when the phase crosses zero before the gain crosses zero, your system will become unstable. That is due to the fact that you will get positive feedback when you close the loop. once the gain crosses zero, your system is attenuating, and you are in the green.

so your phase margin is how much margin you have in your phase before your system goes unstable. you want a good deal of phase margin in a real system for a variety of reasons.

1. component tolerances
2. temperature variations
3. noise in your system
4. changes in load.
and more!

your phase and gain margin will also effect your systems responses to changes in input.
 
AnkleBreaker said:

Homework Statement


What is the effect on the phase and gain margins of a system when a Phase Lead Controller/Compensator is added?
The answer is contained in the question: A phase-lead compensator adds a "leading" (positive) phase to the loop gain.
If you know that in case of a marginally phase margin the (negative) loop phase is too close to the critical values, it is clear that addition of a certain amount of positive phase (in the critical frequency region around the cross-over frequency) will improve the margin.
 
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