Effective mass, Taylor's theorem

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of effective mass in the context of semiconductor conduction, specifically focusing on the application of Taylor's theorem to derive the dispersion relation in two dimensions. Participants explore the implications of orthogonality in the effective mass formulation and the treatment of mixed terms in the Taylor expansion.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions whether cross product terms like K1 * K2 are neglected in the Taylor expansion for a two-variable function, given that the effective masses are defined along orthogonal axes.
  • Another participant asserts that the scalar product of the orthogonal wave vectors K1 and K2 is zero, implying that mixed terms can be eliminated with a suitable choice of axes.
  • A participant seeks clarification on how the orthogonality of the vectors affects the formula used in the Taylor expansion.
  • There is a suggestion that an orthogonal transformation of the axes could be used to eliminate mixed terms in the expansion.
  • One participant expresses confusion about the inclusion of increments along the two orthogonal axes in the formula, indicating a misunderstanding of the treatment of mixed terms.
  • Another participant mentions that the choice of coordinate system may have been made to simplify the analysis by ensuring mixed terms vanish.
  • There is a reference to the principal axis theorem as a method to achieve the desired form of the equations.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the treatment of mixed terms in the Taylor expansion and whether the effective mass formulation adequately accounts for these terms. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives on the implications of orthogonality and the choice of coordinate systems.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the dependence on the choice of axes and the potential for confusion regarding the treatment of mixed terms in the Taylor expansion. There are references to mathematical concepts that may not have been fully explored in the discussion.

chimay
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Hi,

I'm starting to study conduction in semiconductor and I have a doubt about the concept of effective mass. Let's suppose to deal with an dispersion relation in two dimensions; basically, the effective masses along the two axes are defined by means of the Taylor's expansion of the function around its minimun. During lessons, we used the following formula:
[tex]E= E_{min} + \frac{{\hbar}^2}{2{m_{1}}^*} {k_{1}}^2 + \frac{{\hbar}^2}{2{m_{2}}^*} {k_{2}}^2[/tex]

In particular my question is the following: Taylor's expansion for a two variables function includes also cross product like K1 * K2. Are we simply neglecting it?[/PLAIN]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor's_theorem

Thank you
 
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chimay said:
Hi,

I'm starting to study conduction in semiconductor and I have a doubt about the concept of effective mass. Let's suppose to deal with an dispersion relation in two dimensions; basically, the effective masses along the two axes are defined by means of the Taylor's expansion of the function around its minimun. During lessons, we used the following formula:
[tex]E= E_{min} + \frac{{\hbar}^2}{2{m_{1}}^*} {k_{1}}^2 + \frac{{\hbar}^2}{2{m_{2}}^*} {k_{2}}^2[/tex]

In particular my question is the following: Taylor's expansion for a two variables function includes also cross product like K1 * K2. Are we simply neglecting it?
[/PLAIN]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor's_theorem[/URL]

Thank you

The two dimensions are orthogonal, hence [tex]\overbar{k_1} \text{ and } \overbar{k_2} [\tex] are also orthogonal, so the scalar product of the two would be zero.[/tex]
 
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Thank you for your answer.

Can you please explain me where does the following formula need to be changed as a consequence of the orthogonality of the two vectors?
[tex]f(x_{0} + h, y_{0}+k) = f(x_{0},y_{0}) + f_{x}(x_{0},y_{0})h+ f_{y}(x_{0},y_{0})k + \frac{1}{2}[f_{xx}(x_{0},y_{0}){h}^2 + 2f_{xy}(x_{0},y_{0}) hk+ f_{yy}(x_{0},y_{0}){k}^2]+ R(h,k)<br /> = f(x_{0},y_{0}) + \frac{1}{2}[f_{xx}(x_{0},y_{0}){h}^2 + 2f_{xy}(x_{0},y_{0}) hk+ f_{yy}(x_{0},y_{0}){k}^2]+ R(h,k)[/tex]

Thank you
 
Of course there can be mixed terms, but you can eliminate these with a suitable choice of your axes.
 
I don't understand how, can you please explain it to me by means of an example?
In my case [tex]h = k_{1} , k = k_{2}[/tex]

How can [tex]h k = k_{1}k_{2}[/tex] be zero?

Thank you a lot

Edit: I'm sorry for the layout, how can I write an equation in Latex alligned to the text?
 
chimay said:
I don't understand how, can you please explain it to me by means of an example?
In my case [tex]h = k_{1} , k = k_{2}[/tex]

How can [tex]h k = k_{1}k_{2}[/tex] be zero?

Thank you a lot

Edit: I'm sorry for the layout, how can I write an equation in Latex alligned to the text?
##k_1, k_2## are vectors, you therefore have to take the scalar product between them. If, by sensible choice of axis, the wave vectors are orthogonal, then the scalar product is zero, in which case there are no cross terms.
 
But in the relationI posted in #3 they are just the increments along the two orthogonal axes x and y, and they are still included in the formula.
It is obvious there is a misunderstanding by my side, but I don't get what is the point.
 
Ok, so maybe you can find an orthogonal transformation of the axes so that the mixed term vanishes?
 
But in the case of the formula in #1, defining the effective masses, K_1 and K_2 are orthogonal and, from a mathematical standpoint, they behave like the axes x and y...
 
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Then someone has already used the freedom to orient the coordinate system so that the mixed terms vanish.
 
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So, basically, should I trust that someone, should I?
 
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Thank you very much!
 

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