Thermionic Emission: Questions Explained

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The discussion centers around thermionic emission, exploring its theoretical underpinnings, mathematical representations, and the implications of various concepts such as K-space and current density. Participants seek clarification on specific aspects of the theory and its application, particularly in relation to the behavior of electrons in a material.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the use of K-space for electrons with energy above E0, suggesting uncertainty about its relevance to free electrons and their relation to bound electrons in a crystal.
  • Another participant emphasizes that every electron has momentum, which justifies the use of K-space, noting its utility in solid state physics and diffraction experiments.
  • Concerns are raised about the absence of an electric field in the integral, with participants discussing how thermal velocities alone could lead to a net current.
  • A later reply suggests that a net flow of electrons occurs due to momentum components perpendicular to the surface, contributing to the current.
  • One participant requests explanations that do not reference the free-electron gas model, indicating a desire for a more tailored discussion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relevance of K-space and the role of electric fields in thermionic emission. There is no consensus on these points, and the discussion remains unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express limitations in their understanding of the free-electron gas model, which may affect their ability to engage with certain explanations. The discussion also highlights the complexity of translating physical phenomena into mathematical language.

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This discussion may be useful for students and researchers interested in thermionic emission, solid state physics, and the mathematical modeling of electron behavior in materials.

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Hi,

in the latest lesson my professor explained the thermionic emission; I guess it is a simplified approach, since I am not a Physicist.
Anyway, there are some things not clear to me; I'll show you the approach and I hope someone of you could help me.

As usual, W= work function and E_{f}= Fermi Level and J= current density
The solution is straightforward:
J= -q \int 2 \frac{d^{3} \bar k\ }{(2\pi)^{3}} \frac{1}{e^{\frac{E_{z}+E_{||}-E_{f}}{kT}+1}} \frac{1}{\hbar} \frac{dE_{z}}{dK_{z}}
E=\frac{{\hbar}^{2}}{2m^{*}} ( {K_{x}}^{2}+{K_{y}}^{2}+{K_{z}}^{2} )= E_{||}+E_{z} and z is the direction of flowing of the current.

2 \frac{d^{3} \bar k\ }{(2\pi)^{3}} is the density of states per unit volume

\frac{1}{e^{\frac{E_{z}+E_{||}-E_{f}}{kT}+1}} is the probability of occupation of each state

\frac{1}{\hbar} \frac{dE_{z}}{dK_{z}} is the velocity of each carrier

Since d^{3} \bar k\ = d^{2}k_{||}*dK_{z}
J= \frac{-2q}{{2\pi}^{3}\hbar} \int d^{2}k_{||} \int_{E_0}^{+\infty} dE_{z} \frac{1}{e^{\frac{E_{z}+E_{||}-E_{f}}{kT}+1}}
E_{0}= E_{f}+W

My questions are the following ones:
- the integral goes from E_{0} to + \infty; since electrons that have energy higher than E_{0} are "free", why are concepts like the K-space still used? Are they related to electrons bounded in a crystal, are they?
- in the integral there is no reference to any electric field applied. I can't understand how can we have a net current just by summing thermal velocities.

Thank you
 
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Good questions - but they seem to be a matter of definition:
1. check what K represents.
2. check what "thermionic emission" means.
 
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Your answer is not clear to me , should it be a kind of "hint" to solve my questions?

I have thought about the problem since yesterday, but I really can't solve it.
Suppose for a moment that an electron with energy above E_{0} can still be described by means of K-Space (I am not convinced about this, it is an assumption).
Basically, the explanation of the integral is the following: let's choose a surface S, for each K we have a certain current density J= -qn(K)V_{z}(K), let's sum them all togheter and we get the overall current. It seem like taking a piece of metal and expecting a current flowing just by thermal agitation.

Obviously this is no the case of thermion emission, since the elctrons escaping from surface (please refer to the figure) do not have a counterpart coming inside the metal, my problem is how this is translated into mathematical language.

Thank you very much
 

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chimay said:
My questions are the following ones:
- the integral goes from E_{0} to + \infty; since electrons that have energy higher than E_{0} are "free", why are concepts like the K-space still used? Are they related to electrons bounded in a crystal, are they?

No. Every electrons will have a momentum. Even in the free-electron gas model, you have a distribution of momentum. So that is why the description is in k-space. In fact, in solid state physics, this is the most useful representation, because especially in any diffraction experiments, the results are equivalent to probing the k-space structure.

- in the integral there is no reference to any electric field applied. I can't understand how can we have a net current just by summing thermal velocities.

Thank you

Again, there is a distribution of momentum of the electrons. There will be a net flow of electrons coming out of the solid due to the fact that they have a momentum component perpendicular to the surface. So you will get a current.

BTW, a more detailed explanation on this is via the Richardson-Dushman model.

Zz.
 
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Actually, We have not studied the free-electron gas model.
Could you please give an explanation (even qualitative) without referring to it?

Thank you
 
chimay said:
Actually, We have not studied the free-electron gas model.
Could you please give an explanation (even qualitative) without referring to it?

Thank you

http://www.inorg.chem.uni-sofia.bg/Courses/03/Freelgas.pdf

In particular, look at the dispersion relation for the free-electron gas.

Zz.
 
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Thank you, I will read it as soon as I can.
 

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