Efficiency of a combustion motor

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The discussion revolves around the efficiency of a combustion motor, specifically how it relates to heat transfer and volume ratios in the context of thermodynamics. The original poster presents a formula for efficiency and questions the relationship between various parameters involved, including heat and temperature.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to connect the efficiency formula to the concepts of heat and volume, expressing confusion about the relevance of certain variables. Other participants suggest looking into related concepts such as Carnot Efficiency and the implications of reversible processes on maximum efficiency.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the efficiency equation and its derivation. Some guidance has been offered regarding the relationship between temperature and efficiency, but there is no explicit consensus on the connections between the variables involved.

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The original poster notes that they are new to the topic and suggests that the textbook may lack sufficient explanations. There is also mention of the complexity of the subject matter for beginners.

Karol
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Homework Statement


The efficiency of a heat machine is ##E=\frac{Q_2-Q_1}{Q_2}## where Q2 is the heat inserted because of the explosion and Q1 is the heat that leaves through the exhaust.
It says in the book that E can be derived from the volumes ratio V1/V2:
$$E=1-\frac{1}{\left(V_1/V_2 \right)^{\gamma-1}}$$ why?

Homework Equations


Adiabatic expansion: ##T_1V_1^{\gamma-1}=T_2V_2^{\gamma-1}##

The Attempt at a Solution


$$E=1-\frac{1}{\left(V_1/V_2 \right)^{\gamma-1}}=\frac{T_2-T_1}{T_2}$$
But V2 and T2 have nothing to do with Q2, the heat from the explosion. also i don't know what's the connection between V1 or T1 and the heat lost through the exhaust.
I have just started studying the second law, maybe the book is excluding some explanations, it's an old book for high school but the level is quite high
 
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Not my field but perhaps look up Carnot Efficiency. That relates efficiency and temperature.
 
Note that E is the maximum efficiency, achievable only if all process steps are carried out reversibly, i.e. entropy is conserved. Then Q2 = T2dS2 and idem 1 (with a - sign). Over all ##\Delta S = Q_2/T_2 - Q_1/T_1## and only ##Q_2 - Q_1## can be drawn off as work.
 
BvU said:
Note that E is the maximum efficiency, achievable only if all process steps are carried out reversibly, i.e. entropy is conserved.
You're right. But mostly actual cycles aren't considered till you study the subject in depth. And I think there is an easier way for this proof.

Karol said:
But V2 and T2 have nothing to do with Q2, the heat from the explosion. also i don't know what's the connection between V1 or T1 and the heat lost through the exhaust.
If you know the the changes in temperatures (ΔT), you can use the equations-
Q = mCPΔT (constant pressure) or Q = mCVΔT (constant volume)
Knowing the relation between temperature and volume, you can introduce 'V' into the equation.

I must say though, it isn't really too easy for a starter.
 
Thanks i solved but it's long development so i won't write it here
 
No problemo!
 

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