What Is the Temperature of Compressed Air in a Diesel Cylinder?

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The discussion revolves around determining the temperature of compressed air in a diesel cylinder during the compression stroke, given initial and final conditions of volume and pressure. The subject area includes thermodynamics and gas laws, particularly focusing on adiabatic processes and the ideal gas law.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to verify if the process is adiabatic by comparing initial and final states using relevant equations. They also explore the ideal gas law to find the final temperature. Some participants question the necessity of using adiabatic equations given the non-adiabatic nature of the process.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's approach. There is recognition of the original poster's conclusion regarding the non-adiabatic nature of the process, and some clarification on the relevance of gamma equations has been offered.

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Participants are navigating the implications of using different equations under the assumption of an ideal gas and the conditions of the problem, which may not align with adiabatic assumptions.

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Homework Statement


At the start of the compression stroke, the cylinder in a diesel motor contains 300[cm3] of air at atmospheric pressure and 270C, and at the end of the stroke the volume is 20[cm3] and manometric pressure 41[atm]. What is the temperature.

Homework Equations


$$PV=nRT\rightarrow \frac{P_1V_1}{T_1}={P_1V_2}{T_2}$$
In an adiabatic process: ##T_1V_1^{\gamma-1}=T_2V_2^{\gamma-1}##
And: ##P_1V_1^{\gamma}=P_2V_2^{\gamma}##
γ for air=1.4

The Attempt at a Solution


First i check if this is an adiabatic process by comparing the initial and final volumes and pressures:
$$T_1V_1^{\gamma-1}=1\cdot 300^{1.4}=2937$$
$$T_2V_2^{\gamma-1}=42\cdot 20^{1.4}=2784$$
So it's not, heat leaks.
So i calculate using the equation of state:
$$\frac{P_1V_1}{T_1}={P_1V_2}{T_2}\rightarrow \frac{1\cdot 300}{300}=\frac{42\cdot 20}{T_2}\rightarrow T_2=840^0K$$
Is my method true?
 
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Yes. Note that this is strictly an ideal gas problem. You didn't need to use the equations with the gammas. But, if you had, would your results have been consistent with the gamma equations?

Chet
 
Chestermiller said:
But, if you had, would your results have been consistent with the gamma equations?
You mean if i solved the gamma equations? i guess not since it isn't adiabatic, i don't understand the question, i think
 
Karol said:
You mean if i solved the gamma equations? i guess not since it isn't adiabatic
Yes, that's what I meant, and your conclusion is correct.

Chet
 

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