Efficiency, Stirling heat engine

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The discussion revolves around calculating the efficiency of a Stirling heat engine, focusing on the relationships between various heat transfers and work done within the system.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants present different expressions for the efficiency \(\eta\) and seek confirmation on their formulations. There is an exploration of the relationships between heat transfers \(Q_{12}\), \(Q_{23}\), \(Q_{34}\), and \(Q_{41}\) in the context of the engine's operation.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered alternative formulations and simplifications of the efficiency equation, while others are questioning the derivations and seeking clarification on the steps taken to arrive at the proposed expressions. There is an ongoing examination of the definitions and assumptions related to the heat transfers involved.

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Participants are encouraged to show their reasoning and provide detailed derivations to support their claims, indicating a focus on understanding the underlying principles rather than simply confirming results.

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Homework Statement



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We have a Stirling heat engine. I'm calculating the efficiency \eta.

Homework Equations



Q_{12} = \frac{m R T_2}{M} \ln(\frac{V_2}{V_1}) > 0

Q_{23} = m c_v (T_1 - T_2) < 0

Q_{34} = \frac{m R T_1}{M} \ln(\frac{V_1}{V_2}) < 0

Q_{41} = m c_v (T_2 - T_1) > 0

\kappa = \frac{c_p}{c_v}

\frac{R}{c_v M} = \kappa - 1

The Attempt at a Solution



My result is \eta = \frac{|(\kappa-1)T_1 \ln(\frac{V_1}{V_2})+(\kappa-1)T_2 \ln(\frac{V_2}{V_1})|}{(T_2 - T_1) + (\kappa - 1)T_2 \ln(\frac{V_2}{V_1})}.

Can anyone confirm this? I'm sorry if this is too trivial.
 
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dave84 said:

Homework Statement



AhKqy.png


We have a Stirling heat engine. I'm calculating the efficiency \eta.

Homework Equations



Q_{12} = \frac{m R T_2}{M} \ln(\frac{V_2}{V_1}) > 0

Q_{23} = m c_v (T_1 - T_2) < 0

Q_{34} = \frac{m R T_1}{M} \ln(\frac{V_1}{V_2}) < 0

Q_{41} = m c_v (T_2 - T_1) > 0

\kappa = \frac{c_p}{c_v}

\frac{R}{c_v M} = \kappa - 1

The Attempt at a Solution



My result is \eta = \frac{(\kappa-1)T_1 \ln(\frac{V_1}{V_2})+(\kappa-1)T_2 \ln(\frac{V_2}{V_1})}{(T_2 - T_1) + (\kappa - 1)T_2 \ln(\frac{V_2}{V_1})}.

Can anyone confirm this? I'm sorry if this is too trivial.
You will have show your reasoning to explain how you arrived at this. You could start by showing us your expression for η in terms of Q41, Q12, Q23, and Q34.

AM
 
So \eta = \frac{|A|}{Q_{in}} =\frac{|Q_{12}+Q_{34}|}{Q_{41} + Q_{12}}, where A is total work done and Q is the input heat. The final result is simplified with \kappa.

Q_{in} = Q_{41} + Q_{12}
Q_{out} = Q_{23} + Q_{34} = Q_{in} - A

Q_{out} is the amount of heat that is released from the heat engine.
 
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dave84 said:
So \eta = \frac{|A|}{Q_{in}} =\frac{Q_{12}+Q_{34}}{Q_{41} + Q_{12}}, where A is total work done and Q is the input heat. The final result is simplified with \kappa.

Q_{in} = Q_{41} + Q_{12}
Q_{out} = Q_{23} + Q_{34} = Q_{in} - A

Q_{out} is the amount of heat that is released from the heat engine.
I am not sure how you got your equation for efficiency. Start with \eta = \frac{|W|}{Q_{in}}.
You can rewrite this as:

\eta = W/Q_{in} = (Q_{in}-Q_{out})/Q_{in} = 1 - Q_{out}/Q_{in} = 1 - (Q_{23} + Q_{34})/(Q_{41} + Q_{12})

Can you show us what this reduces to?

AM
 
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