Efficient Study Topics for Physics GRE: From EE to Core Physics Areas

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The discussion centers around preparing for the Physics GRE, particularly from the perspective of someone with an electrical engineering background. Participants explore efficient study strategies, recommend textbooks, and discuss the breadth of topics covered in the exam, including classical mechanics, quantum mechanics, statistical mechanics, optics, and thermodynamics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses feeling overwhelmed by the Physics GRE syllabus and seeks guidance on a study sequence for core physics areas.
  • Another participant suggests using undergraduate physics textbooks, such as Halliday & Resnick, for foundational knowledge, emphasizing that the GRE material is not as advanced as Goldstein's classical mechanics text.
  • There is a recommendation to learn Lagrangian and Hamiltonian methods, with a suggestion that Marion & Thornton might be more suitable for this purpose.
  • A Modern Physics textbook like Tipler & Llewellyn is proposed to cover relativity, quantum mechanics, and statistical mechanics, although its statistical mechanics section is noted as weak.
  • One participant mentions the importance of practicing simple mechanics problems and understanding circuit analysis, suggesting that the participant's background in electronics should make this easier.
  • Advice is given to utilize practice tests to identify specific areas needing improvement and to develop a method for memorizing equations, as the GRE does not provide an equation sheet.
  • There is a query about which specific Halliday & Resnick book is recommended, leading to clarification about the differences between "Physics" and "Fundamentals of Physics." Various other introductory physics texts are also mentioned as alternatives.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for foundational undergraduate textbooks and the importance of practicing problems, but there is no consensus on the best approach to studying (sequentially vs. concurrently) or on the specific textbooks to use.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of familiarity with core physics topics, and there are differing opinions on the depth of material needed for the GRE. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and backgrounds, particularly between physics and engineering disciplines.

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Individuals preparing for the Physics GRE, especially those transitioning from engineering to physics, may find the recommendations and strategies discussed here beneficial.

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Hi all,
I'm from EE background, currently working as TCAD enggr in a semiconductor fab outside US and I'm considering research in physics in the US.
(relevant key words that I've identified, till date- computational nanoelectronics, molecular electronics, ballistic nanotransistors, Non-Equilibrium Green's Function, quantum simulations etc)

I know i'll have to sit for the Physics GRE for the same and I'm quite overwhelmed by the breadth of the syllabus for the test. since I've not read formally much of core physics areas such as classical mechanics, quantum mechanics, statistical mechanics, optics, thermodynamics (perhaps all that's there in physics except electronics), i want to master(preferably quickly) these atleast to the level of scoring well in the test.

could someone suggest me a sequence of study topics so that i can cover most of these efficiently? like which should i know first before proceeding to which?
this would probably easy for physics majors but as i said, I'm from EE and I'm frustrated trying to do this exercise of coming out with a study plan, myself.

also, to all those physics folks, which is the best way to prepare - studying sequentially i.e one area at a time (first knowing all that's there in classical mech and then quantum)
or studying multiple areas concurrently (for eg, 2 hours classical mech, 2 hours statistical mech, 2 hours quantum mech per day, everyday) ?

i just have these books : classical mech - goldstein,
electrodynamics, quantum mech- griffiths
what other books(preferably self-learning type) are advisable for the above mentioned subject areas as well as other areas such as optics, thermodynamics etc?

I'd highly appreciate inputs.
thanks a lot!
 
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What you need is an undergraduate physics textbook, something like Halliday & Resnick. The classical mechanics covered on the Physics GRE is not nearly to the level of Goldstein. All you really need to do is practice some simple mechanics problems (pendulums, cylinders rolling down inclined planes, that sort of stuff) using Newton's laws.

However, you should also learn the Lagrangian and Hamiltonian methods, which you can learn from Goldstein, but honestly, you don't need anything in Goldstein but chapters 1, 2, beginning of 3, and beginning of 8. An undergraduate text like Marion & Thornton might be better for learning Lagrangian and Hamiltonian methods.

Also, you will want a Modern Physics textbook, like Tipler & Llywellyn. This will survey relativity, quantum mechanics, statistical mechanics in (mostly) good enough detail; although the stat mech section is weak.

Given that you have experience in electronics, the circuit problems should be disturbingly easy for you, although physicists for some reason like to do everything by mesh analysis (which I find much more confusing to apply than nodal analysis). Generally every circuit will reduce to a parallel-series circuit, so look for that before you start posing any complicated equations.

The best thing to do is to look at the available practice tests, and see what it is you need. Find some method to remember all of the equations, because the test will not have an equation sheet for reference. What worked for me was to derive all of the equations myself. The test WILL have a table of physical constants, and you WILL be asked to calculate with them (with no calculator); however, in nearly all cases, you can round everything off to one significant figure and still determine the correct answer choice.
 
What book by Halliday and Resnick are you recommending? I've searched for both of them on Amazon and I find more than one book.
 
"Physics" (Halliday/Resnick/Krane) goes into more depth than "Fundamentals of Physics" (Halliday/Resnick/Walker), but either will do. Actually, any first-year calculus-based intro physics book will do: Serway, Tipler, and Giancoli are authors that come quickly to mind. The topics are pretty much standard. Get whichever is cheapest for you. Just make sure you get the calculus-based version, because some also authored algebra/trig based books for non-physics-majors.
 
Thank you very much. I went with Physics vol 1 and 2.
 

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